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1080p vs. 720p - 你应该买哪种投影机?
Evan Powell,2006年9月29日
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Jack Liu(dupin67)翻译

在我们最近的CEDIA (注:家庭智能化设计及安装协会)2006展会回顾中,我总结了一些关于1080p对720p家庭影院投影机的相对优势的想法。如果你已经读过那篇文章,那么你就已经看过了下面的评论。然而,我决定摘录CEDIA回顾中的最后一部分,并且将其作为一篇单独的文章重新贴出,从而让那些对CEDIA这个题目不感兴趣的读者也能看到。

最大的问题是:目前1080p投影机的价格已经降到了许多消费者能够承受的范围,是选择新的720p解像度投影机更好呢,还是在预算和性能上更进一步,选择一台1080p产品?

抛开所有关于1080p格式的炒作,对许多买家来说,今年秋天(注:2006年)最好的解决方案仍将会是选择一台新的720p投影机。这个结果有几个原因。首先,如果你观看的节目主要是标准清晰度DVD和广播HDTV的体育节目,那么在图像质量上,比起720p投影机已经带给你的,1080p投影机几乎不会带给你任何新的东西。所有来自Fox,ESPN以及ABC的HD体育广播节目都是原生720p,这些节目在一台原生720p投影机上已经是极尽清澈、锋锐之能事。1080p投影机增加的解像度不会使HD体育广播节目拥有更高的真实解像度,因为信号被限制在了每帧720线的视频信息上。

同时,标准清晰度DVD(NTSC标准)仅仅有每帧480线的视频信息。在一台720p投影机上,DVD信号倍线到720线,而在一台1080p投影机上,则倍线到1080线。假设使用高质量的倍线DVD播放机或者视频处理器,1080p图像有可能会比720p画面稍好一点。然而,不会有戏剧性的区别,并且在很多情况下,甚至即使AB对比观看也无法注意到任何区别。原因是DVD画面在根本上受制于其信源仅仅每帧480线的视频信息。因此DVD信源无法从720p或者1080p投影机的全部解像度能力中受益。

如今――虽然标准清晰度DVD和HD体育广播节目是大量投影机用家的主要兴趣所在,但这可能不适用于你的情况。CBS,NBC以及其它有线电视网的很多黄金时段的节目以1080i格式播出。新的1080p投影机确实具有潜在的实力,使这种类型的节目看上去比在大多数720p投影机上明显更为锐利。鉴于1080i信号压缩为720p显示已经非常不错了,因此效果上不会有天壤之别。但是当使用一台1080p投影机时,来自HDTV 1080i广播节目的图像的确具有稍微锐利一点的潜力。

实际上,从一台1080p投影机上受益最多的最重要的视频信源是新的高清晰度DVD格式,HD-DVD和蓝光,两者都是原生1080p信源。HD-DVD和蓝光光碟装载了完全1920×1080解像度每帧的视频信号,而在一台原生1080p投影机或者平板显示器上,它们能够展现出最佳效果。短期来说,那些最早拥有这些技术的人将会从1080p投影机上获得最直接的好处。如果你认为自己是一个视频迷,或者是一个喜欢花大钱来占据视频技术前沿的认真的发烧友,那么1080p投影机的新的产品群代表着一个全新的世界,而这个世界有着你绝对不愿错过的升级家庭影院的机会。

底线是,1080p投影机比任何时候都更好,更便宜。许多希望尽善尽美的买家将会利用这个变化,定购一台新的1080p型号,因为现在它们已经在可操作的价格范围之内了。然而,主流消费者则不应该让自己被1080p的炒作所干扰或吸引――对于租借DVD、观看星期天体育节目和星期一晚上橄榄球比赛的典型的消费者来说,今年秋天上市的强大的720p投影机(注:AX100、Z5和TW700)将会是目前最划算的一笔交易。然而不论是1080p还是720p,如果你还没有体验过超大屏幕(100英寸对角线以上)家庭影院,那么现在是有史以来最好的时机。(完)

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Reader Comments(32 comments)

Posted Apr 23, 2009 12:39:20 PM

By Fore!

Here's my 2 cents worth. If you have a good 720p projector you can get much better bang for you home theater buck investing in other parts of your system. For example, instead of upgrading to a 1080p projector I bought an anamorphic lens (Panamorph UH380 - the good thing about a nice piece of glass is that it doesn't wear out or become obsolete, and I got an excellent deal on a lightly used one) and switched out my screen for a 120x50 2.4:1. The positive impact for my movie viewing experience was far more dramatic than any 1080p projector would have been, and potentially for far less money depending on the 1080p projector chosen (I have a bias for DLP over LCD). My projector is a SIM2 HT300 Plus which continues to give a fantastic picture with outstanding color and blacks. And at 720p I get better resolution than someone using zooming to get a 2.4:1 picture with a 1080p projector.

Posted Feb 25, 2009 10:43:03 AM

By Shawn Peterson

I have a quick question about 1080i vs. 720p. I thought a 1080i signal is 1920 x 1080, meaning it has 1920 pixels of horizontal resolution (1920 vertical scan lines), and since each frame is interlaced and drawn 1/60th of a second, it has 540 pixels of vertical resolution (540 horizontal scan lines). Likewise, a 720p signal has 1280 pixels of horizontal resolution (1280 vertical scan lines) and 720 pixels of vertical resolution (720 horizontal scan lines), so if you convert from 720p to 1080i, you actually gain horizontal resolution, is this correct?

Posted Feb 17, 2009 12:07:01 AM

By Typo

I'm looking for a good projector for console gaming and watching Blu-ray movies. What's a good choice? I'm leaning more towards a entry level 1080p projector for the movie aspect. I know most games don't do 1080p.

Posted Feb 12, 2009 8:09:55 AM

By jeff haddow

I have a Benq W500 720p projector. It will play 1080p content via it's HDMI input. The image was always very good via my sons Playstation 3, about the same as my old HD DVD player. I have just installed a Pioneer BDP 51FD Blu-ray player. Now I can see just how good Blu-ray is. The image has improved so much that I still can't believe it. It makes my $1000.00 projector look like a $5000.00 projector It really is that good. The Dolby HD audio is also far better than Dolby Digital. So if you want to see what you are missing go out and spent the extra ¢200.00 bucks on the player and stay away from the cheap units.

Posted Feb 11, 2009 6:35:54 PM

By Derek

I own a 50" TV, and at that size, I can easily see a difference between even 720p and 1080i content downconverted to 1366x768 (the max resolution for my TV). I have a hard time believing that I wouldn't see a difference between 1080p and 720p.

If I stand more than 13 feet away, though, this difference is very difficult to distinguish. With a projector, as with a TV, it would have a lot to do with how far away you are from the TV.

Posted Nov 17, 2008 11:20:50 AM

By Mister Smith

The argument is whether or not the extra expense is justified for the net gain in sharpness that most folks will experience when going from 720p to 1080p. This is the most misleading and easily manipulated part of HD tech and it actually contributes to slowing growth of the technology because it makes folks aprehensive about purchasing either. We have heard this argument for years, even when very few of the HTs in our homes had available content to display at 1080 I or P. Technically, there is a difference between the two, the question is "can the average viewer with average HD content availability utilize 1080p to the extent that it is worth two to three times as much as a very good 720p setup?"

Posted Nov 3, 2008 2:24:26 PM

By Dr. D

A 1080p projectors have more detail over 720p but the visual quality isn't twice as good to justify double the price. It's much like speakers, once you get to one price point the extra audio quality you get for spending a lot more is much smaller. Not to mention, a lot of people have cable or DishNetwork/DirecTV programming which are far from being perfect since they're compressed more (it's much better to get local broadcasting over the air). So, unless you're going to be watching a lot of BluRay movies or have one of those big satellite dishes then I say go with 720p.

Also, 720p isn't dead. It will probably take 2-3yrs before 1080p projectors are below $1,000 and that's the common price point for people to accept it as the defacto standard to get for a home theater. Of course, if you're rich then you won't even be reading this article since you'll just get the best that's available. And there's nothing wrong with that...but anyone even considering 720p vs 1080p tells me they should go 720p since budget is an issue otherwise there would be no debating the choice.

Posted Oct 4, 2008 10:53:12 AM

By Ron Doerge

It has been interesting to read some of the previous comments. I am the Pres/CEO of The Projector Place and have been in the AV industry for over 40 years. I just wanted to comment that I do see some web comments that are really off the wall. I also want to verify that Evan Powell is the Number one authority on projectors in this country and I know of no one in the industry that is more respected by his professional peers. You may disagree with Evan but the odds are the right answer is in Evan's favor.

Posted Sep 25, 2008 12:51:12 PM

By Leonard Eckian

There is a great deal of variation in individual's visual acuity and that is why you will see people reporting that they can't see rainbows while others can, and some people complain about screendoor while others don't. If you have 2 people looking at a screen and one sees screendoor and the other doesn't you can be sure that person who doesn't see screendoor will not be able to tell the difference between 1080P and 720P. With good vision you will see a very noticeable difference in image detail between 1080P and 720P. This is particulary noticeable when viewing closeups of people faces on a HDTV news broacast that is being broadcast live in 1080i. The limiting issue is the video source itself. All HDTV broadcast are not created equal and as the quality of the sources improve the 1080P advantage will be clearly visible to everyone except for those with poor eyesight.

Posted Sep 24, 2008 8:59:25 PM

By Natja K.

I think Evan Powell hit the nail firmly on the head. While I am not as much in agreement with Leonard R. Eckian's comments here and there, and feel they are a bit over the top. Obviously Leonard is a die hard 1080p videophile. Now I have seen Blu-ray via hdmi through both native 1080p and native 720p models. I have a very, very picky eye, and even standing there seeking out even the slightest of improvements in native 1080p projectors using Blu-ray via hdmi, I did in fact see a slightly sharper image, and naturally better blacks and contrast(but mind you-there are plenty of 720p projectors that have the same or superior blacks and contrast as most 1080p models). But honestly the difference is not really that big. Let's face it- both are indeed true HD. The only difference is that one has more pixels than the other which means a sharper image. So in my opinion 1080p offers better sharpness which means a slightly clearer picture. So on that level I do indeed agree. But I have seen many projectors in action, both 720p and 1080p native with Blu-ray and though I see a difference and a superior image with the 1080p signal, I do not agree that 1080p is that significant of an improvement over 720p because it is an overstatement to say it is. Evan Powell's article seem to suggest this opinion somewhat as well.

Posted Sep 23, 2008 7:57:32 AM

By Leonard R. Eckian

If your viewing distance is 1.7 times the acutal screen width or less, and you have good eyesight, it is very easy to see the difference between 720P and 1080P with high definition source material. Once you have seen and your eyes have grown accustomed to 1080P you will not want to go back to a 720P experience. Since 720P, by definition compromises video fidelity it is not a desirable choice.

Posted Sep 19, 2008 6:35:15 AM

By blackjack57

There is a VERY visible difference between watching SD dvd's on a 720p projector and watching Blu-rays or HDTV on a 720p projector. As far as the difference between watching the same blu-rays and HD content on a 720p or a 1080 projector? Not nearly as much of a difference. Slight improvments only and the general population won't notice the differnce at all. Its up to each individual to decide if the 1080p premium is a good ROI.

Posted Sep 13, 2008 9:54:34 AM

By Kevin P

My 0.0025 (South African)cents I currently use a Panasonic PTAE500 and have never felt the pictures lack detail/resolution, and thats just playing DVDs. I look forward to using it with a blu ray player to see what 720p looks like. Without having seen any of new crop of 1080p projectors I am sure they will have a significantly better picture but probably due to their better black levels / contrast ratios rather than the extra pixels. For the time being I can't help but think that 1080p models are overpriced. Sure there have been improvements but if the lens on the old ptae100 was good enough to show the chicken wire effect surley its good enough to show the extra pixels? Sure it will probably need faster processor chips. But a playstation 3 has to process these images and seems to do it at a much more reasonable price, and don't get me started about the lamp costs. I going to hold off until lamps are replaced by LEDs and some kind standard exists for 3D projection

Posted Sep 12, 2008 2:08:30 PM

By Leonard R. Eckian

Max you will see a big difference because the 1080P projector in addition to more resolution will have better contrast, black level and shadow detail. This is not like two identical cars one with a 4 cycl. and one with a 6 cycl.--The 1080P projector in addition to the higher resolution will have many other improvements not available in any 720P projector.

Posted Sep 12, 2008 1:02:13 PM

By Max

Yes yes, I see what people are saying. But the question is this:

If you have 2 identical setups (Blu-Ray player, 100" screen, darkness, etc) and you run a $2500 1080p projector side by side with a $1200 720p projector, how much of a difference can you actually SEE when watching a Blu-Ray DVD?

Posted Sep 12, 2008 6:49:08 AM

By alan h

the only exception to what they are saying above is the three chip dlp projectors at 720p still outperform the 1 chip 1080p projectors, my infocus 777 three chip 720p has a much better picture than my neighbors 1080p jvc.

Posted Sep 12, 2008 5:50:34 AM

By Leonard Eckian

Reader Beware: Some diehard 720 people are saying a good 720P projector is better than an entry-level 1080P projector--that is just a myth--720P technology is over and done with and has been for 3 years. As soon as 1080P went mainstream all meaningful improvements to 720P projectors ceased. The only valid reason to go 720P is to save money in the short term. The unstoppable movement in video content is to 1080P. Do you want to buy down-rezzing (720P) technology that is being left behind or newer 1080P technolgy that fully meets the true HDTV format?

Posted Sep 11, 2008 7:53:19 PM

By Loong soo kum

To go 720p or 1080p will depend on a few factors in different part of the world. 1) Cost- 1080p prices are higher for blu-ray player and Projectors. In Malaysia, the Blu-ray disc cost about USD 45.00 per piece.Almost 2-3times the price of standard definition DVD. 2) Titles Release- At this point of times, disc titles are still limited. 3) Technology- Blu-ray player reading the data take a while to select the scene due to large amount of data in the disc and improvement need time to perfect. 4) 720p performance is acceptable with current SD DVD and is affordable. Will upgrade at a later date if all the above has improve for the better!

Posted Sep 11, 2008 4:21:42 PM

By HeadRusch

One point about video games: You'll need a high-end videocard in your PC if you want to drive 1080p, and thats for PC games.

Xbox360's (which will still be with us for several more years) and the Sony PS3 (which will be with us even longer) do very few games at 1080p resolution natively.

Both are primarily 720p devices that will likely continue to output in 720p (or less) as the games use more of the systems processing for visual effects.

1080p gaming wont be with us for quite awhile unless you are talking about PC games, and if you are, make sure you have the horsepower in your machine to drive 1920x1080 pixels at a reasonable framerate.

Posted Sep 11, 2008 3:25:39 PM

By Douglas Pratt

(Note: I'm *not* the Doug Pratt who publishes The DVD Newsletter.)

I own a Panasonic PT-AX200U, and I have absolutely no 1080 envy, thanks in part to the invisible pixel grid. Everyone who's seen my PT-AX200U has been totally blown away by the picture, whether watching widescreen 480p DVD, HDTV on a FiOS DVR set to 720p, or my son's Xbox 360.

Posted Sep 11, 2008 3:15:32 PM

By Boris H.

There are two points missing in favour of 1080 projectors: 1. photography projection (one can easy see the difference to 720) 2. video games (with the very sharp 1080 picture) If you don't use projector for the above, 720 should do very well, even for Blue Ray.

Posted Sep 11, 2008 3:14:29 PM

By HeadRusch

My .02 cents:

Native contrast levels, color accuracy, and the amount of light the projector throws should be far more important than 720p versus 1080p.

An entry-level LCD 1080p unit can be bested visually by higher-end 720p DLP units that are often priced less to begin with.

At the same screen size and the same seating distance from projectors of the same type (LCD and LCD or DLP and DLP), unless you are right on top of the screen *few* people would be able to distinguish a 1080p image from an 720p one without seeing them both side by side and comparing.

Only by freezing both displays on a single frame and comparing will differences (sometimes) be visible, and then it will greatly depend on the quality of encoding on the BD disc and how the movie was shot to begin with, the condition of the film stock when transferred, and if the film is new or old...where older films tend to show alot of grain in the image, which in turn can destroy detail (which is intended, by the way).

Having said all that....the days of 720p are coming to a close, in another year or two there wont be any new 720p displays being produced. And as such, the price of 1080p displays will again come down. Many of us have chosen to spend a small amount on a good quality DLP 720p projector in the short term, and upgrade to a higher quality 1080p unit somewhere down the line when they become more affordable.

The $2000-and-under LCD 1080p units do not impress me so far visually, and my "buy" point is closer to $1200 anyhow.

Posted Sep 11, 2008 3:00:17 PM

By Leonard R. Eckian

I can't say I agree with this article because it is not just resolution that makes 1080P clearly superior to 720P, even to a novice. The 720P technology has been frozen over the past 2-3 years with no notable improvements in contrast or black level. One of the holy grails for front digital projectors has been to make products that rival CRT black level. This is beginning to be approached and achieved with the 1080P projectors whereas 720P projectors have not made that leap. If the only difference between 720P and 1080P was resolution this article would have merit however the manufacturers will not be putting out 720P projectors with 75000 to 1 contrast ratio anytime soon and probably never. If you want to truly enjoy dark movies you will have to buy a 1080P projector.

Posted Aug 23, 2007 2:55:26 AM

By bebby

How should the question be answered when we are talking about own movies produced with HD-camcorders? I'm planning about buying a HD-camcorder and will probably watch a lot of my own movies. Which should I buy then? 1080p with 24p? Many thanks!

Posted Feb 28, 2007 6:56:52 PM

By L-Squared

I am about to invest in my 1st projector system and I am in a quandry over whether to buy a 720p vs 1080p. I hav ebeen leaning to the SIM2 Domino D35 but it actually costs more than the new Sony 1080p. Logic would seem to dictate that investment in a relatively expensive 720p will be money down the drain at SOME point in the future(who knows when). So it got me thinking (1) buy 1080p now or (2) buy cheaper 720P now and upgrade to 1080p later when more content is available. I do not plan to invest in Blue Ray and mostly watch traditional DVD's and cable TV (sports, movies, etc). Opinions?

2nd - is the Stewart Firehawk worth the money over a DA-Lite or Draper?

Posted Feb 23, 2007 9:51:42 AM

By Bobzdar

Has anybody compared the quality when using 1080p vs 720p when using a 720p native projector? Just curious as my Optoma can down convert 1080p to 720p, but as the ps3 can display both, I'm wondering if it'll look better set to 1080p or 720p...

Posted Feb 22, 2007 1:15:53 PM

By Atropos

"I think this depends on the player. For example, I currently have a PS3 with a HD1000 projector and if I try to play the Talladega Nights Blu Ray movie on those, then the movie is down converted to 480p. I have seen other postings were they say that if the movie comes with support for all resolutions then it will display correctly, however I am not sure about this.

I also connected the PS3 to an LVM-37w3 (1080p monitor) and the movie displayed correctly at 1080p there."

When your PS3 is connected to the HD1000, set video compatibility to 1080i. It'll display correctly. At least, it worked for me. :)

I don't know why, but if you're set to 720p on the PS3, it downconverts. Lame, huh? Set to 1080i and let the projector downconvert from there.

Posted Feb 17, 2007 8:23:53 AM

By dijuremo

"If you are more interested in displaying a computer screen at 1024x768, then 1080 is what is needed, right? It seemed to me interlaced would be better for computer projection than 1080p, does it matter?"

Modern computer displays and graphic cards are all progressive, not interlaced.

If you are interested in displaying a computer at 1024x768 you do *not* need a 1080p capable display (TV, LCD, projector, etc). You just need a display capable of doing 1024x768.

Now if you want to display your computer image at 1080p, then the resolution will be 1920x1080. If you are planning on using it for gaming, you better get a hell of a good video card. Otherwise your fps count will be so low that the games will suck.

I currently have a PC with a Geforce 8800GTX running at 1080p (1920x1080) at highest settings in all games with an LVM-37w3 and it is just beautiful.

I also have another computer which was previously connected to an HP VP6120 projector at 1024x768 and then I upgraded to the HD1000 at 1280x720 (720p). However due to problems with the HD1000 not doing 1:1 image in the VGA input at 1280x720, I am going to return that projector and buy something else.

Posted Feb 17, 2007 8:16:53 AM

By dijuremo

"Native BluRay or HD-DVD are backward compatable, aren't they? Will I be able to play, for instance, BluRay discs on a BluRay player and project at 720p with my Panasonic AE700? It won't up-convert from SD for some silly reason, will it?

Thanks."

I think this depends on the player. For example, I currently have a PS3 with a HD1000 projector and if I try to play the Talladega Nights Blu Ray movie on those, then the movie is down converted to 480p. I have seen other postings were they say that if the movie comes with support for all resolutions then it will display correctly, however I am not sure about this.

I also connected the PS3 to an LVM-37w3 (1080p monitor) and the movie displayed correctly at 1080p there.

Posted Feb 9, 2007 12:16:30 AM

By RJT

If you are more interested in displaying a computer screen at 1024x768, then 1080 is what is needed, right? It seemed to me interlaced would be better for computer projection than 1080p, does it matter?

Posted Jan 26, 2007 11:41:00 AM

By Chris M.

Native BluRay or HD-DVD are backward compatable, aren't they? Will I be able to play, for instance, BluRay discs on a BluRay player and project at 720p with my Panasonic AE700? It won't up-convert from SD for some silly reason, will it?

Thanks.

Posted Nov 23, 2006 7:19:28 PM

By JupiterOEK

Great article for novice. How do they relate to the Standard television programs? I need to replace my benq because it is too dark to view regular tv. Please advise.

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