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Since 1080p home theater projectors have dropped below $1,000, the demand for inexpensive screens is bigger than ever. When you spend less than $1,000 on a projector, you don't want to spend big bucks on a screen to go with it. So for hobbyists with a creative, DIY bent, let's focus on how to paint the perfect screen for under $100. We will look for a good paint solution because it is easy, cheap, and it doesn't warp and ripple over time like fabric screens can do. First, if we are going to build a great screen, we need a standard of perfection to compare it to. That, to us, is the Stewart Studiotek 100, a perfectly neutral 1.0 gain white screen that reflects back exactly what the projector puts out. It has absolutely no color bias, no gain, with a pure smooth finish that reflects the maximum amount of image detail. Since white paint will have a gain of about 1.0, the Studiotek 100 is a good benchmark against which to compare our results. What about gray paints? Many people are interested in gray screens and paints due to their increased black level. So we started our evaluation with the popular Behr Silver Screen formula. We painted a test board and mounted it in front of the Studiotek 100. Illuminating these two surfaces with a variety of test patterns and video clips revealed significant differences in contrast and color balance. The one advantage the Behr Silver Screen had over the Studiotek 100 was black level, which is expected from gray paint--the darker the screen, the darker the black level. In scenes with a black background and white highlights such as rolling credits, the paint showed a higher contrast image and a much more solid black. The Behr Silver Screen is the perfect solution for people who watch rolling credits. Unfortunately, that's not what 99% of one's viewing subject matter consists of. The Behr image was 27% dimmer than the Studiotek 100. That, in itself, is not a problem if you have a small enough screen or a bright enough projector. But the Behr Silver Screen kills color saturation, and it appears to reduce vibrancy in the warmer end of the spectrum. This should not be surprising. Imagine, what do you get when you mix gray with yellow? You get a grayish yellow. If you mix gray and blue you get a grayish blue. But the compromise of the yellow is more noticeable. On the Behr gray paint, flesh tones looked horrible, appearing dirty or ash-colored in comparison to the Studiotek 100. Red and yellow color saturation is the most muted, and white highlights appear as subdued grays. Overall, the Behr Silver Screen paint does not deliver a balanced image. It certainly is not showing you what the projector is putting out. On its own, due to its increased black level, it may look fine if you don't have anything to compare it to, and the deep black creates an impressive sense of contrast under the right circumstances. But it is not a paint we would recommend for optimum home theater performance. Gray screens were invented to compensate for the low contrast projectors of years past. But with today's high contrast models, we favor the use of white screens unless you have chronic uncontrolled ambient light. Since white paint should have a gain of about 1.0, the same as the Studiotek 100, we set out to see how close we could come to replicating the performance of the Studiotek 100 with white paint. Would it be possible to find a perfect replica? Of course, there are paints out there that are specially designed for home theater. Goo Systems makes a great (and very popular) paint product. Previous testing with Goo showed that it is perfectly color balanced, and an impressive product. But for this project we wanted to keep total screen cost under $100, and Goo costs more than that. Other companies make paints they claim are formulated for home theater screens. But since they cost upwards of $200 a gallon, they already blew our target budget for a $100 screen. We limited our evaluation to white paints most people can find locally for under $20 per quart. A Million Shades of White If you go to your local paint store, you'll find an array of paint chips that represent different formulas of white. They have names like Polar Bear, Snow Fall, Swan Wing, Moon Rise, and so on. They all look white. But none of them are the perfectly neutral white that you want on a home theater screen. They each have a subtle color bias that will affect how your projected image looks. If the white has a bright, cold, crisp tone, it is because it is reflecting more blue light than is ideal. If you use this shade of white on your screen, flesh tones will look a bit cooler than the projector is putting out, while blue skies will be slightly oversaturated. Conversely, warmer tone white paints look warmer because they are reflecting a bit more red and yellow relative to blue. They will give flesh tones a bit more warmth than normal, while reducing the brilliance of a blue sky or the fresh look of green grass. The objective is to avoid these errors. So how do you get neutral white? In theory, the most neutral white in any paint vendor's product line should be the base white that exists before any pigment is added. So that's where we started.
Reader Comments(103 comments)
Awesome article.. I have just completed my theatre and have a fixed 115" screen made out of 3/4" MDF. I used 2 coats of primer/sealer/undercoat then 3 coats of plain old pure ceiling white-matt finish. I have had not one bad comment..Everyone loves the picture. While yes,the image has a lot to do with the projector also, and i'm only running at 720p, there maybe a difference once i go to 1080p.. time & budget will tell. Moral of the story is - roll the dice - take a gamble a HAVE A GO!! My screen only ended up costing $150 painted & mounted. Good luck :)
Hi, please name the store in canada when you by the paint and the code.Thx.
Thank you Projector Central for this excellent test. I live in México and I cannot get this sherwin williams paint, so I would like to ask you if you could try a new test with the other kind of paints that we can get on internet like Goo, Paint on Screen and DYI Theatre comparing them with the sherwin williams in order to find the real winner in the screen paint ring. I know these other paints cost a little bit more but finally all of them are cheap.
Thanks again. Victor
The best commercial screens have a perfectly smooth surface with no texture or surface imperfections completed by optical coatings to improve image quality. It is physically impossible for the home hobbyist to replicate the level of smoothness of a quality screen with paint. To whatever extent a painted surface shows texture, orange peel or imperfections there will be a corresponding loss of image detail. A painted wall is an inexpensive solution but not a substitute for a quality screen. If you are on a budget it is tempting to take a shortcut but the projector and a screen form a system that together renders your image and the result is only as good as the weakest link. A painted wall is a weak link.
This is great news, your able to paint the screen vs shelling out $$$$.. I'm looking into purchasing the sony hw50es and wanted to paint a 150" screen on my wall.. what do you recommend.. I was looking at a screnn with a 1.3 gain what paint and tint do you recommend?
I used a foam roller labeled for latex paint and to prodcue an extrememly smooth finish. The 106" screen ate a quart for each coat! I am at 4 days and still have some hot spots that reflect during bright scenes. I am still hoping this will cure to a non hot spotty surface due to the think coats. I also have the panasonic ar100u which has 2800 for the lumens whihc might just be too much for this screen. Maybe I will try egg shell coat next if it doesnt mellow...
I'm trying to paint the drywall with ProClassic. However, I was reading other forum mentioning using grey color instead of white. Should I add grey to this paint? If then, how much do I need?
I have a 100" screen, but wanted a larger screen. After seeing this I purchased the Sherwin Williams Pro Classic and now have a 170" painted screen that looks fabulous! I has wonderful colors and great contrast. Thanks so much!
Well, goes to show you the disparity in pricing between Canada and the U.S. So far I have bought wood, brackets, screws, velveteen, roller, brushes, compound (to patch nail holes) and I'm up to over $140. I checked the S-W paint (they don't sell that one in 1 quarts so I'm stuck buying a gallon for $79 after tax and I still need primer. looks like I'm going to be around $250 plus paint for the rest of the room. Sheesh, it better be worth it in the end.
I took this articles advice and painted a concrete block wall in the basement with the Extra White ProClassic Smooth Satin Enamel Finish. (Say that three times real fast.) It looks great. I realize a concrete wall is probably not the greatest surface for a projector screen, but till I can afford something better I'm all about doing it on the cheap end. I have to say that I was amazed. I'm using an Optoma GT750E and have a nice 13' screen with amazing colors now thanks to this paint. All for less than $100. Also even 3D movies look bright despite the dark glasses. You guys nailed it with this paint color. If things look this good for less than $100, I can't wait to see how a professional screen will look someday.
I bought a 4.5 x 12 piece of Sheetrock. And painted 3 coats with this paint and wow. I mean definite wow factor here. I'm noticing details I never noticed before. So glad I ran across this. I do have as few streaks in bright scenes but they improved with each coat. I may do a fourth coat tommorow
The streaks can be easyly removed by applying another coat of paint. Remember it's very importantant to use a 1/4 nap roller, and to paint it in N fastion. One row at a time starting from the left side to the right. Streaks will show up if painted in this matter.
For those that want to spray, remember that you need to back roll as you will get overspray. Therefore, just use a roller!
I took this article and ran with it. I will say that it creates an incredible screen. People that see it are surprised it's 'just paint'. I have some streaking that shows up in really bright scenese, probably because I didn't sand between coats. Can't blame the solution for that. Overall though, I feel like I got the best bargain in the world for my setup. I'm using an Epson 3010 with a 175" screen. I went with 2" thick black felt for the immediate border and then flat black wall paint to finish the wall. I don't have a $2,000 screen to compare it to, but I don't need one. This looks better than my 58", calibrated plasma @ 1080p.
Why do you have to paint your wall? Can't you paint a large board or sheet of plastic instead? Some people forget that to hide an annoying screen when not in use, you do not necessarily need an electric roll up screen. You can cover your fixed screen with pretty curtains or the like. Great article though. Thanks!
I have a Dalite high contrast cinema vision screen witch is a 92",it has a gain of .8 After reading this article i was very curious and painted a piece 2 foot by 4 foot piece of hardboard and placed it directly over my screen I used the shirwin williams paint suggested here on this article and all i can say is wow!! amazing !! This paint blows away my 500.00 screen. I have a epson 8500 ub. I would highly recommend spending all your budget on the best projector that you can afford, and paint yourself a huge screen for 20.00 dollars. Thank you projector central for not being scared to tell us the truth im sure the creen companies wont like reading all these positive reviews.
I projected a 120" image on my wall only after one coat of the SW ProClassic Interior Acrylic Latex (smooth enamel finish for trim & doors) Satin, Extra White B20 WQ 8051 (sold in Canada) and was just blown away by the quality of the picture! I am waiting for this coat dry and will add a 2nd coat later. The results are amazing! Real deep blacks, with vibrant colours and so much more POP in the image compare to my old daylite matt white screen. The key to this do it yourself screen is prep work, such as the wall wood studs are flush, install new drywall, smooth out the surface and mudding & sanding. I used 2 coats of primer with sanding after each coat of primer. My wall was so smooth only after one coat of the screen paint, I will not have to sand for the 2nd coat. The time spent so far has been about one week. Thanks for the great advice from Projector Central! This one is winner.
Good stuff Mark! One question. So the curved drywall didn't affect your display only affected your frame? My drywall has a curve as well but if the display is not affected I am not going to worry. I plan on painting the 2" black border around the grey paint and that's it.
I have a question,what color would the pro classic satin enamel be,extra white?
those anyone know if the (proclassic interior waterbased acrylic-alkyd extra white satin) those the same job or is my only choice the latex???
Very interesting article. I plan on using the Sherwin Williams paint. My wall is currently painted flat black. How many coats of primer should I apply before the actual paint? Has anyone had any experience painting on a black wall?
I went in to Sherwin Williams today and picked up a gallon. There is a new product code for this paint: B20W1151. So you will have less confusion if you ask for that instead.
It is rare that people writing on the Internet do such an excellent job of research. I would like to add my praise to the heaped-up pile.
as a painter it seems that low gloss is the gloss your looking for it between satin and semi gloss and has none of the glare of semi gloss. also i t occurs to me that the primers might give you what you want rather than a paint. something you may not have considered. a latex primer with flotroll paint additive will melt out the applicator texture. i like zinzer's bulls eye 123 latex interior /exterior primer. it would hold up just fine without a finish unlike many primers left unprotected. it will take tint if needed. As for spraying skill i can tell you that holding the sprayer further away from the wall is the key to eliminating sprayer lines. try to keep the mill rate even and add many thin coats that are wet enough not to leave that dry dust feel when touched. a little foetroll helps with this. or use a mohair rolled and yes more flotroll. also an oil paint like rustoleum with penetroll oil paint additive and a white foam roller will self level rather easily. its only high gloss so some 3x 3m sponge sanding and then a clear coat of more of just the oil conditioner followed by a super fine sponge sanding with 400 grit would give a perfectly flat and perfectly neutral gloss surface. a little i do mean a little tint might be helpful.
That's a very great idea,painting a movie screen. I would love to have my very own home theater. The thing is,I live in an apartment and my wall is like dull white and I was thinking of a good white paint and a frame. I have a lot of movies to watch on dvds so once it done,I will have a very great experience. I'm glad you had come up with that idea. Thanks.
I used screen goo on the back of a 4'x6' foamboard-mounted photograph. The photo is sitting on a 4' wide white ikea brackless shelf. When I want to watch a movie, I just flip the photo around and I have an instant screen! I love the screen goo. Using it with my Epson Powerlite Home Cinema 8350 and my Blu-ray player, it's a very nice combo with great brightness and contrast. Certainly has reduced my desire to go to the movie theaters. BTW, I'm a photographer with a degree in film production.
Hi Seth. The pearlized paint looked great at first but got too bright over time. This is the best I've found so far. Take matte mod podge (about $5 at any craft store). Cut with 50% water and add 1 teaspoon of a grey paint. Roll on any color wall - no need to spray. This will dry flat and will work on curved surfaces, crooked walls, etc. I took 2 quick pics- one with lights on and one without lights. The one without lights is a little blury. I'm beta testing new 3d screen paint so I haven't finished this screen. But this will move you way ahead of just white paint. http://www.flickr.com/photos/83171478@N02/
Hello i have located this paint in Lithunania but they tell me it is oil based. Will it make a difference whether it is oil based or waterbased..
Hello everyone.I have read this fantastic article and decided that painting the wall was for me no longer did i want a screen :-) until i tried to locate the Sherwin williams ProClassic� WaterBorne Interior Acrylic Satin Extra White. You see i am from Ireland and NOTHING is available here :(.... I have spent days trying to locate this paint even from the UK..I have got so fustrated can anyone help as in is there anywhere i can locate it or has someone used something similiar in UK/IRELAND...any help would be much appricated yours faithfully "on the verge of mental breakdown Irish Man :)"
Has anyone heard the paint "Goo System"? Is it really good? Thx.
We have a screen as 16:10 with diagonal 260" in size. I need to find a high quality wall paint. Have anyone heard about Goo paint? Is that really good and worthy?
@Keith, how large is your screen? Would it be possible for you to post a picture of it, or post a link to pictures of it? Also did you roll the pearlized mixture on or spray it?
I followed the advice here and I was BLOWN AWAY. 145" screen. I use an Optoma HD200X Full HD 1080p projector and it's incredible how clear it is with the ProClassic Smooth Enamel Satin Finish no tint paint. One thing I did was paint a 3" black border around the white screen. looks AMAZING. Grey textured wall, black border, white screen. best solution ever. When people come into the room, they think it is a fabric screen. Thank you!
I just finished my 120". Turned out awesome with a few exceptions. I flattened a textured wall, not that big of a deal to accomplish. One thing that is inherent on most wall cunstructed with drywall is unevenness. after hanging the frame, I found that my wall is nearly 1 inch concave it the middle. Not too much I am willing to do about that. When I upgrade my projector, I'll probablly buy a fixed frame screen. These issues are with my circumstance, not the project. My results are stunning. So good that it highlighted the "screen door" effect from my DLP projector to the max! Will never buy another one! If you can make your wall flat, this is an amazing alternative! Thanks for the article!
Best Screen Ever and only $6.00!!! This you have to try! After using the Sherwin Williams paint, my 12 year old said,"nice screen but not I can see where the wall is crooked and it looks a little washed out." Then I went over the screen again with 1 part pearlizing medium $1.99, one part water and 2 parts white acrylic paint $3.99 (both from Micheals). WOW! Amazing! NO hot spots, colors pop, whites are white, blacks are black. My son's only comment was, WHOAH! That's AMAZING! Like someone hung a giant TV on the wall!" This will take your screen to a whole new level
I had good luck with Sherwin Williams paint but the picture didn't pop they way I wanted it to. I read that pearlized paint will brighten the overall picture. So I added 1 oz pearlizing mediam from Micheals to a quart of water based satin polyurathne and painted over the white coat. The screen is now much brighter. I can even watch with lights on in the background. I'm going to play around with adding more pearlizing medium and also some gloss polyurathane to see if I can increase the brightness without adding hot spots. But for approx $20, well worth the added step.
I got some clarication on the Sherwin-Williams paint. The name of the product is "ProClassic® Interior Acrylic Latex Enamel". The description on the label is "Smooth Enamel Finish for Trim and Doors".
The article refers to Sherwin-Williams "ProClassic Smooth Enamel". However, I cannot find the exact match on the Sherwin-Williams website. The closest I can find is "ProClassic Interior Acrylic Latex Enamel"; the other two are "ProClassic Interior Waterbased Acrylic-Alkyd Enamel" and "ProClassic® Alkyd Interior Enamel". All three are available in the recommended Satin Finish. Can someone please confirm that the "Interior Acrylic Latex" is the correct one? BTW, I was told that they will have a 40% off sale (at least locally here) starting this Saturday (May 19).
the projector paint is good but a huge screen like in the theatres with good quality speakers is the best setup you can get i feel.
Grreat article, but for me, way too much work. I bought a FANTASTIC daylite screen for around $250, the matte white, professional, the same one all the AV kids trudged around in high school. Even their clumsy hands couldn't break these babies. I love the screen, and frankly, it's cheap. Why people get any other screen is beyond me. Maybe it's a way for video stores to make a big profit. The white is the best surface, the same thing they do in every professional movie theater. By the way, I am a professional cinematographer. I love the daylite, with my Panasonic AE-4000. Couldn't be happier.
Hi, I'm also in Australia looking for a similar alternative?
Thanks for this great info.
I live in Haiti where Sherwin-williams paint is available. I want to project to a large external wall at night, for a drive-in. Do you think the exterior version of Duration satin works?? http://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/products/catalog/duration-exterior-acrylic-latex/?referringCategory=exterior-paint-coatings/paint/
This paint ROCKs, they should change this to painting the perfect screen for $30, not $100. It really is outstanding. I'm using a epson 6010 and even in THX eco mode it looks fantastic.
Just want to add my thanks and congratulations on the paint article. I had used traffic paint (seemed like a good idea...somewhat reflective) and it did quite a good job with a few hot spots. Also it is very quick drying so it was hard to get on a thin coat. I acquired the Sherwin Williams paint recommended and WOW what a difference. I had to do several skim coats on the drywall to get it really smooth first, then a few coats of the paint. On my Sanyo PLV Z2000 in Cinema mode the pictures are stunning on a screen that is 10 ft wide (2.35:1)Top quality Blu rays look better than movie theatres and my own HD home movies are spectacular!
I have had my screen painted and and in use for over a month now. I had a superbowl party and all my guest thought that i had a real screen on the wall, some had to touch it to believe it. My screen is about 178 inches viewable 2:35 aspect ratio using a Benq w6000. Its a little over 14 feet long. I can't believe how good it looks and im using economy mode on the lamp right now.
I painted a 120 inch screen using this method. Very nice image . The whites might be a little to bright but I dont know if it would be the same way on a regular screen because I never tried it on a regular screen. I was just watching the oscars with my benq w1200 at 120 inches, occasionally it looks like your looking through a window . Great job projector central .Thank YOU
I'm projecting onto a 120" diagonal screen in my dedicated media room. All the tips for choosing the paint and getting the job done inexpensively were awesome. The best tip was a comment about getting razor sharp paint lines even on a textured wall. Worked flawlessly. Projector is a ViewSonic Pro 8200 full 1080p. Zero ambient light. This article saved me a boatload vs. buying a fixed screen. I am very very very happy with the picture quality on the wall. Thanks!
Fantastic article. Really appreciate the detail.
Just an FYI that, in Canada, I was told by my Sherwin Williams store that the code for the equivalent ProClassic Interior Acrylic Latex (smooth enamel finish for trim & doors) Satin, Extra White is B20 WQ 8051
Great article. I moved into a new house and just finished a home theatre room in the basement. Instead of using the inexpensive 106" screen from my old house, I decided to paint a larger 119" screen on the newly built wall. The results are amazing. The picture is brighter with more depth of field and the colours are more natural - especially flesh tones. The surrounding wall is mat black as the ceiling and the black wood trim around the screen provides a perfect border giving it that professional look. All this for less than $50...and a 2 hours of work.
Pretty freaking amazing. I wish I could attach a picture to show how different the wall looks with the 110" painted screen on the "white wall". The picture is amazing.
Very please with the painting process and the Epson 3010. Thanks again!
Great read. I recently pulled the trigger on the Epson 3010 (3LCD 3D).
I followed everything here and so far with only one coat of paint things look 100 times better that just projecting to a clean, smooth wall. When we get the second coat on, and watch a 3D Blu Ray I'll get back to you. So far, so great! Thanks again!
Has anyone tried this with a colored paint? I'm considering using the ProClassic Acrylic Latex but having Sherwin Williams mix in a slightly off white color (like SW7562) since we're projecting on a full wall in our living room. Assuming this would degrade the quality slightly but we'd still get most of the reflective quality of the paint. Comments?
Great write up!!! Only problem I found is that google did not return any sources of it in Australia... Anyone got suggestions or close alternatives that we may have here?
Not sure what happened here, but I do work for Sherwin-Williams. If you're still working on the project, please get in touch with your local S-W store. It could be that your first coat wasn't completely dry, or perhaps the roller sleeve you were using wasn't clean, or the paint was left uncovered for too long??...ProClassic dries quickly, so working with it quickly once it is out of the can is important. Hope it turned out okay for you!
Very informative article. I got my first HT projector (Epson 8350) this weekend and picked up the paint from local Sherwin Williams store. Picture quality on the white painted wall is awesome and really puts to shame some of the screens I've seen around!
A great article, one throughly produced. It answered my exact questions and probably saved me a couple hundgred bucks and a lot of leg work. THANKS! I will refer to your site for other posts.
Fantastic DIY. The paints are very scarce to find in the UK, Can anyone advice where the products can be purchased please!
bought the behr silver screen then went to the sherwin-williams paint screen is very clear and is only 1 day old,screen size 105 LG projector very happy.
I followed this and all I can say is WOW!!! it took three days so plan your time, go slow and it will come out fantastic.
first I marker out the full view on the wall and I put down two coats Sherman Williams (SW) white primer over a light yellow wall to start. then put on two coats of the recommend Sherwin-Williams ProClassic Smooth mentioned above. I then used 3.25 inch wood trim painted it flat black first and then trimmed out the full screen view (this is a two person job and have the right tools so it looks professional) Thanks for this projector central write up for $60 (max) I have a $200 screen and it will blow your friends away. Good Luck!
Update-1: My first coat of the SW paint worked nicely. However, my next coat motted or clumped the paint. The roller seemed to pick up the paint off the wall and form little peaks if I rolled over it a second time. I tried to compensate by putting on more paint and that made it worse. Any bright scene in a movie picks this up pretty easy, so I'm going to have to redo it. I'm guessing I have to sand it then try again.
I'm in the process of this with a 120" screen. So I'll let you know how it turns out. I have one more coat of paint to put on. So far my biggest hangup was my drywall was pretty warped. I spent a whole week trying to flaten it out with drywall texture. Looking back on it now it would have been easier and faster to just replace the drywall in the first place.
has anyone applied this solution how is the results? can somebody post a picture how the screen look. and how image looks good on it ?
I also paint my screen with a mixture of white paints for a few years. But I have changed it to the 5' x 12' Wilcoson Designer White laminate last year for a better image. It is more than $100 but not much and easier to clean and manage.
I am in the process of setting up my media room. We are putting up a wall for the screen, but I was wondering what primer do I need to use, or does it matter. I am ordering the Sherwin-Williams paint as the closest store is 200km away, and I would rather buy the primer locally to cut down on shipping costs if it doesn't need to be a specific one. Thank you in advance
Mike
Outstanding post, however mine is for outdoor, what kind of paint I need to use then.
this is very interesting.. def saves a lot of money that would have been spent on buying a screen what kind of material is the best to paint on for our diy screen? i really want to paint a portable or possibly roll-up surface so i can take it wherever i need to set up our projector
Great Article! I decided to repaint my home theater screen with the Sherwin Williams paint that you suggested. The only issue was when I went to buy it, it was on a shelf with both acrylic and oil based paint. Anyway, make sure you get the acrylic paint.
It worked great and I think the picture is better than before! Its smoother because the paint 'settles' into the wall and fills in the unevenness. Also the color seems to be remarkably 'pure'. Its not 'warm' or 'cool', its neutral. Finally, give it time to 'cure' to its final state. I noticed that the color seemed to change a little over a few days time. But its worth it. I had a friend over and he said, "Whoa! is that a special screen? It looks so good!"
I learned a method from a painting pro for masking/painting two different colors adjacent to each other on walls (even textured walls) to obtain a perfectly razor sharp edge. I will attempt to explain it for painting a screen here. Read on... 1) Paint the wall color outside of the screen area. 2) Wait for it to be completely bone dry. To test, put some blue painter's tape on it and then pull it off. If there is any paint on the adhesive side of the tape, you haven't waited long enough. 3) Put painter's take to mask the screen area so the tape is outside the screen area. 4) Use the wall color paint to paint inside the screen area. Don't leave roller lines... make sure you feather it out when the roller starts to dry by feathering the paint, applying less pressure to the roller as you get further from the masking. 5) Let dry again. It should be bone dry. You don't want the new paint to dissolve the outer skin of the wall color and start to mix with the screen color. 6) Paint the screen color - as many coats as desired, letting it dry between coats 7) Remove the masking tape and viola! a razor sharp line.
The trick is in painting the wall color on the inside, some of the wall color will seep under the tape in an uneven manner. This is ok because it is the same color as the wall. However, it will seal the uneveness so that the screen color does not seep under the tape. I haven't done a screen on a wall yet, but I have used this technique on highly textured walls and it works great. They should print this technique on the painter's tape. Good luck. Dave
Good article. My experience of painted screens since my first in 1998 is that the color is not critical; eyes quickly adjust to slightly different paint hues, and there’s far more variation in the film stock and color timing of the movie. Even ‘off-white’ is ok. (Hey, there’s a huge difference in daylight through the day, and we seem to manage.)
What is important is that there be no glossy marks (food stains, sellotape, crayola, etc). These can be easily removed with a scouring pad and detergent. Perfect smoothness is also not necessary because the light from the projector is near vertical to the screen, and anyhow imperfections are invisible from 15‘ away. The greatest viewing improvement for me came from attaching black hessian fabric to the whole ceiling (with stapels and wooden battens). The room is total blackout, with floor-to-ceiling navy blue curtains all round, a dark carpet, and dark furnishings. No light reflected back to the screen. With all that, I never even notice or think about the screen, and the PT-AE1000 is more than bright enough. I have designed adjustable borders for different aspect ratios, but the lack of borders is barely noticable in the dark and not distracting, and I haven’t bothered making them.
Great article, and I like the comments comparing Goo screens to the less expensive paint used here. I do have two comments: 1. Wall preparation. Use a skim coat of joint compound to produce a perfectly flat surface. (See the link at Screen Goo's site to the specs for "Level 5" drywall finish). 2. Sorry, but your frame kinda sux. I would use baseboard molding to get a more three dimensional frame effect. Use a miter box or miter saw to get a perfect 45 degree miter. Join the mitered edges with glue and finish nails (or better yet, a biscuit joiner), not those angle straps. Locate and pre-drill four holes thru the frame and into studs on the wall. Mount it solidly to the wall with four flat black, flathead drywall screws, not the picture hangers.
Great article! I did a similar thing using a 5x7 sheet of 1/2" mdf (109" diag 16x9)and painted with Behr Silverscreen and so far it's worked great. For the frame I built up an MDF border, 3.5" wide 1.5" thick with an angle cut profile and wrapped with black velvet as an overscan killer. Looks just like Stewart screen w/o the price or lable.
To level the paint try using Flo-trol paint additive, works great. Slows the drying and really levels the surface. I'm now going to paint the screen with the Sherwin-Williams ProClassic, Extra White, Satin, Smooth Enamel Finish, # B20 W 51 paint after reading this. I'm going to spray it becasue I have the equip and skills so why not. Love this site! Keep up the great work!!
Nice article; wish I'd had this info on paint comparisons a long time ago. I did much the same thing a number of years ago, but to get a perfectly flat, smooth surface, I used a 4x8 sheet of 3/4" MDF, cut down to be perfectly 16x9 format (ended up 49x87.1, screen size 99.8"). Yeah, it was heavy, but stiff, and my wall had all kinds of drywall waves in it. Used Behr UltraPure White flat to avoid hotspots, and painted it while laying it flat on sawhorses. Used 1x4 MDF trim for the frame, painted flat black and mounted the bottom one to studs first, using a level. Then set the bottom of the MDF screen on top of the bottom frame, tilted the screen up and fastened it to the wall with a dozen screws around the perimeter. Easy to cover the screw heads. Finished putting up the remaining black frame pieces, and the effect was stunning, both to guests walking into the room and while watching anything. Biggest learning was to ratchet back on my OCD, relax about being a few degrees off on color temp, and enjoy a cheap DIY screen that cost me about $55. Once you get into a movie, your brain will compensate for most imperfections, and you'll completely forget all about them unless you're calibrating or specifically trying to be critical. If I had to do it again, I'd definitely use the Sherwin-Williams ProClassic Smooth mentioned above, but otherwise, I've been more than happy with my screen through two projectors (540p, then 720p) and soon-to-be a third in 1080p.
One question. Did you guys use the acrylic (water-based), the water-based acrylic alkyd (oil) or the pure alkyd paint?
Thanks very much! Richard
I've painted my screen about a dozen times trying to get the best results and have never been happy with a gloss level other than flat. The satin and gloss finishes looked pretty good at first, but for scenes that pan--such as a basketball game with camera moving from left to right--the imperfections in the paint will be highlighted. The image looks like the lens is dirty--the texture remains static while the image shifts with the pan.
The wall was carefully wet-sanded, I used a high-density foam roller, and even experimented with thinning the paint. I think this problem is directly related to the brighness of the image. The brighter the image, the more glossy paints will show the imperfections. I'm using only a 82" image with a fairly bright projector, which makes the image too bright for glossy paint. The amount of ambient light is probably also related. I don't have exact numbers, but my thought is to stay with flat when the image brightness is over 25fc. But I have to admit that after reading this article, I'm thinking of repainting again...
I have had a Sanyo Z5 projecting onto a 118 inch (5x9 cut to size) bordered sheet of melamine-laminated mdf for about four years now. Everyone loves the picture, but now I'm wondering if I could do even better if I painted it over with the ProClassic Smooth Enamel Satin Extra White as recommeded here. Any thoughts?
I've painted mine with 3 coats of kilz2 primer. I've found it to be the perfect balance between plain white and grey variants. There's some interesting threads on AVS about all the paint options.
Regarding surface imperfections-I was doing my own drywalling so I was able to 'fuss' with it to get it smooth. Some ideas: use resilient channel between drywall and studs. It gives where wood studs won't (keeps drywall flat), and can block sound transmission if done correctly. It's cheap. When mudding/sanding, move a single light on a shallow angle to the wall; imperfections are really obvious. Works well when rolling paint too to 'check for texture'
I currently have a 106" gray screen that I am not happy with. Could I use this paint to paint over the screen to improve it's proformance?
This is an interesting article. I was under the impression that grey screens were still preferable. Now I know.
It seems to me that a really good option for smaller screens would be MDF or Hardboard. If your screen is smaller than 4'x8', one sheet will cost about $20 and is prefectly smooth. That would me much easier than messing with plaster, which is noted as being extremely messy. Also, MDF would be a good option for the frame material. You'll be hard-pressed to find any poplar or pine that's perfectly straight direct from the home store. However, MDF is perfectly flat, perfectly straight when cut correctly, and it won't warp. You can have HD use their panel cutter to cut a MDF sheet down to the strips of material you need. They're not accurate to the 1/16th of an inch, but it's close enough.
Without spectral measurements I don't know what to say about any of the paint applications. They could be great, or not so great.
At Hometheatershack.com there is a DIY paint mix called black widow that will measure spot on 6500 degrees kelvin.
Painted my Screen Goo systems screen about 5 years ago still holding up great. Movies that pan against a white background tend to show subtle shade differences (ie Hoth in Empire) but that is rare.
My recommendation is to buy an 8'x4' sheet of faux maple paneling at Home Depot. This is a perfectly smooth laminated sheet - make sure there are no flaws but this is much better and lighter than drywall. You can built a frame for it out of wood. This sheet is like $14 so it keeps the costs down too and you get perfectly smooth. Be sure to prime it first then use the Screen Goo systems.
Great artical comming from someone who has painted both a Goo screen and a paint from the store screen!
The airless sprayer never worked for me and yes I practaced but found the small foam roller to work best! No roller marks as In my first Goo screen. The end result too close to call.
I have painted 2 goo screen @ 110". This is a relly great product and especially works well with small kids in a bonus room.
My needs have changed and I notice flaws over time. Mainly, it's the wall, not the paint. Drywall seams and the lack of super smooth surface and the main problems. I'm moving to a rigid frame for my next screen. If I was doing this again, I would mount a piece of drywall with liquid nails right over the existing drywall horizontal. Other options would be to apply a thin layer of joint compound over the entire area and sand it until it was entirely flat. Either option is chasing having a flawless flat surface. Follow the directions for the Goo paint to the letter and let each layer cure and you will be happy for years.
I too have been looking at using paint as a Projection Screen and used a simple Bahr Paint from Home Depot that was just off-white (slightly low in color temperature). It worked fine but I had to run my Epson Power-Lite 6100 projector at 8000K. The room is slightly yellow so I painted this one entire wall this color and with the projector off all of the walls look the same color. There is no screen mask and the projector is in another room shining through glass so it looks like a regular living room when the TV is off. It was a compromise.
I started looking for alternatives: I called Screen Innovations and they would not sell me just a couple of rolls of Black Diamond, no matter how much I begged. My screen is 156" and their limit is something like 140" so I would need more than 1 piece. I kept hearing about Bahr Silver Cinema color but putting that swath (and others) on my wall lowered brightness too much for me. Even at maximum (2000 Lumens) brightness my over-sized screen didn't look right. Contrast was slightly improved though. Ultra Pure White was brighter but showed VERY poor Contrast, especially in the day-time. I was just about to pull the trigger on Screen Goo when I saw this article at Projector Central about a $100 painted screen. Since I don't have a framed mask, that's more like $50 to me. This time around I didn't paint the whole wall. I just painted a 156" rectangle based upon the 17' projector throw. The Sherwin Williams Paint is just grey of white with a slightly blue (high color temp) to my eyes - I guess I don't know what the color white looks like. It has a 1.1 Gain. I had to drop my projector down to 6500K but WHOA! This thing looked great. It was brighter with more accurate colors and only a small loss in black level. I am going to have to recalibrate all of the projector's picture modes. This was a big improvement and definitely worth the $50. I may still go to Screen Goo in the future. $300 is still much cheaper than $5000 and I have a feeling brightness and contrast will improve even more. A stunner of an article! Highly recommended. P.S. I was so eager to see what the picture looked like after the first coat I turned my projector on before the paint was dry and was horrified at the "starfield of speckles" I saw. I thought I was going to have to get a quart of Flat and go over it. About an hour and a half later it settled down, though. The second coat the next day went the same way. Thanks PC.
I am using a Panasonic PT-AX200U with a painted screen (Dulux Eggshell Ultra White). The screen is 16:9 with a 140" diagonal. So far I was quite happy with the screen's performance. After reading your article I got the Sherwin Williams paint you recommended. One quart was sufficient for a nice even coat - that's $20 plus the roller. The difference before/after is stunning: much better contrast, better color saturation, excellent highlights and dark levels, even in a not completely dark room.
Thanks for your article. Frank
Ok, here's my update: I've now used the paint recommended in this article to paint the area of my living room wall that I project onto. My living room walls are already white, but not as bright of a white as this Sherwin Williams paint. The difference in picture quality is impressive. The image is now noticeably brighter, the colors more saturated, the contrast appears to have improved, and the resolution even seems to have increased. I never would've thought that going from one white paint to another would make such a big difference, but my budget priced NEC NP115 is now producing an image that has me completely blown away! The article does not exaggerate, this paint really gives you a great looking image. The paint (one quart), roller, roller handle, and paint tray cost me a total of $42, and for that price I got a substantial improvement to what was an already good image. Thank you again for this valuable article!!!!
I did mine in a Benjamin Moore primer/sealer: a one-coat product that I put several coats on with a special finish-coat roller. No gloss, dense pigment/very white, easy to recoat if it gets marked. I did the whole screen wall primer white and painted the other surfaces dark shades(w/dark carpet). I find matting a pain unless it can be adjusted for different aspect ratios and image sizes.
Does the satin finish cause any noticeable off-axis viewing problems?
I wanted to say thanks for this extremely useful article, and also for just generally paying attention to us "theater on a budget" people. I bought the NEC NP115 based on this site's review and I'm thrilled with it! Since I've always projected onto a bare wall, my next investment will be a can of the Sherwin Williams paint. Thanks again, and please continue to keep those of us with limited funds in mind!
Excellent article - however - inexpensive 106" pull down screens can be had for around $100 to $120 with shipping and as a former owner of a "painted wall screen", these inexpensive pull down screens are a lot better. They are brighter, have better contrast and can be moved anywhere you like. *Just wanted to offer a similar priced alternate to all that painting!*
I would second Steve's suggestion of studying a DIY masking solution. You could use Masonite, thin plywood, or even something like gatorboard. Paint it matte black or cover with velveteen or screen tape. The trick is coming up with a simple, and good looking mounting solution.
My one criticism, is the suggestion of painting directly to the wall. This makes the assumption you already have a flat and smooth wall surface. Most residential drywall work these days is pretty sub par, and walls are finished with a texture to hide imperfections in construction. Like others have suggested, painting some sort of sheet good may be a better solution. Of course that limits screen size or introduces seams on the surface. I would also suggest using pre-engineered wood trims and moldings found at most home improvement stores for the frame. They usually come pre-primed and ready for paint, and they will be straighter and more dimensionally stable.
picture of screen when it operaion ?
This is a very good artical and proves that a painted screen is a viable solution. I'm retired from the Eastman Kodak Company where I was heavily involved with photography, video and professonal motion picture work. The company used painted walls in several of their screening rooms. Unfortunately, I do not recall the manufacture of the paint, but it was a product called "magnesium white". It was flat with no sheen. I built a screening room in my home years before video projection was even available using slide projectors and 16mm film (including Cinemascope). The screen is made of masonite and is mounted in a slight to moderate curve. I started out with a base coat of flat white and finished up with a final coat of semigloss white. The semigloss worked well, but it must be completely dry before you do an evalaution with it. Both film and video projection worked well on this screen. With today's video projection equipment, you should be able to attain the "look" you are after simply by adjusting the contrast, black level, and color. However, a knowledge of "color space" is good to have when adjusting the color for optimum results.
The bottom line is don't be afraid to experiment; a painted screen can work very well with minium expense.
How much would you save on the DIY w/ wood cover over buying the Studiotek 100? I'm having a hard time tracking down Studiotek suppliers to comparer to...
Any comment on how the Goo product would compare to the 130 or the Sherwin Williams paint?
I used Valspar's "Cinema Screen" interior matte paint from Lowes on a 5' x 8' sheet of mdf board that I nailed to the wall of my basement and it looks great to me. It is a white color, not gray. I used 1.5 quarts because it required a second coat over the primer. Cinema Screen is the name of the color, so apparently someone at Valspar put some research into the color. The numbers on the print out are 101-0.5, 105-2.5, and 115-0.5. I have a 4 year old Optoma HD72 and I love the combination. To me, having a perfectly flat surface so you do not see ripples in a screen during panning shots is greatly preferable to whatever advantages my pull down Da-Lite screen had. Being perfectly flat it makes the screen appear like a giant flat screen plasma to me. Also a black border painted with black chalk board paint really absorbs any projection image over spill.
I too, read this article out of general interest, not out of need. I have a perfectly adequate da-lite screen that I got cheap from a friend who was upgrading. If I ever upgrade, it would be to purchase a superior screen. But I am curious, what type of board would be used for this. I have a 110" screen. Can you even get a flat board that large. If so, I would expect it to have some amount of warp to it that would distort the picture.
This article is great! But i still have a few questions.
#1 So basically you are saying white is better than gray? #2 ProClassic Smooth Enamel Satin Finish is the paint that you have chosen as the best one, but if im painting on wall it should be Duration Satin Extra White right? #3 Could you post some pics?
For those who don't want a permanent fixed frame or expect a move in the relatively near future, why not paint a board that you can hang on the wall when you want to whatch a movie and unhang it when you're done? You just need a garage for storage...
This is a great article I found my self reading it not because I needed a screen but because it was a comprehensive look at what constitutes a great screen as well as detailed steps of how to create one. I happen to have a Studiotek 130 screen, so I read the article as a matter of interest and not as a matter of need. When I purchased my screen I was playing around with an Electrohome CRT projector while I watched the DLP, LCD. LCOS technologies settle out. It was one of your articles that convinced me that projectors would come and go but I would likely have the screen for awhile. That advice has turned out to be right on the money, I've had a couple different projectors since the old CRT, but I still enjoy the same screen. My issue is, I don't have, nor would I have spent the fortune Stewart was looking for, for a masking system. Over the years you've mentioned masking systems but rarely discussed them at length, I really can't recall any product reviews. I'm not ready to get rid of my Studiotek, but I would dearly love a masking system for it, (without mortgaging my house). Are there any options out there? if not, have you ever considered putting together a DYI masking system project?
Thank You for your continuing insight, Steve
Does anyone know the price of the Stewart paint and can you get it in a quart?
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Posted May 16, 2013 1:02:28 PM
By IVANNE