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Panasonic PT-AE8000
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Almost every year, Panasonic comes out with a new home theater projector, and each time it incorporates several significant improvements to the previous year's model. Last year's AE7000 was a groundbreaking home theater projector that, in addition to being the world's first LCD projector capable of full 1080p 3D, also raised the bar on what one should expect from 3D home cinema. Now Panasonic has introduced the PT-AE8000. The AE8000 is not as outwardly different from its predecessor as was the AE7000 from its own, but outward appearances mean very little. The AE8000 has significant improvements in all areas of picture quality, from brightness (both in 2D and 3D) to contrast (both in dynamic range and shadow detail) to color accuracy and the clarity of detail. Any one of these improvements can seem rather small, but taken in sum they constitute a major upgrade that will interest both videophiles and more casual users. Update September 12: We have received further information from Panasonic regarding the price of the AE8000 and its replacement lamps. We have also been told that Panasonic will offer consumers two free pairs of 3D glasses with the purchase of a Panasonic AE8000. The AE-8000 is Panasonic's newest home theater projector, offering several improvements over the AE-7000 that will be of particular benefit in a dark room home theater environment. We set up our AE8000 on a rear shelf above and slightly behind our seating area. The projector has manual H/V lens shift with a joystick-style adjustment mechanism. This system allows for a total shift range of three image heights by 1.5 image widths. In other words, you can move the picture one full image height either up or down from the central position, or a quarter of the image width in either direction. As always, the shape of the lens shift range is an oval, not a rectangle, so one cannot reach full horizontal and vertical shift simultaneously. The AE8000 has received a brightness boost over its predecessor of 20% on paper, from 2000 to 2400 lumens. However, our actual measured increase is more than the specs indicate. The AE7000's Cinema 1 mode measured 529 lumens on our test sample, whereas the new AE8000 cranks out 822 lumens in that same mode, which is more like a 50% increase. That's enough light to power a 140" diagonal 1.3 gain 16:9 screen at 18 foot Lamberts. Our AE8000 was set up for a 100" diagonal image on a Stewart Studiotek 100, a 1.0 gain screen, using Cinema 1 in low lamp mode with the lens at its widest angle setting. That produced 534 lumens, or 18 fL, and still left plenty of room to increase brightness when it came time for 3D. (Btw, Stewart doesn't recommend the neutral Studiotek 100 for home theater; the Studiotek 130 (1.3 gain), is usually preferred for home theater installations.) Viewed by itself, the AE8000 is a stunning projector. However, viewing the AE8000 next to the AE7000 is when things start to get interesting. There's a clear increase in contrast, especially in low-illumination areas; shadow detail is better defined on the AE8000. The brightness difference is readily apparent to the naked eye. Detail appears more clear and sharp, though there is no sign of anything resembling an edge enhancement artifact. In 2D, these improvements combine to give the AE8000's picture a touch of refined elegance as compared to the AE7000, a quality that will be appreciated by dedicated videophiles. In 3D, a substantial improvement in brightness and stability may have specific appeal to those who view a lot of 3D material.
Reader Comments(53 comments)
Can the 6020 epson be wireless?
I was thinking of getting the Benq W1070 until I read about the PT AE8000U? I am trying to get the best picture 2d / 3d for the money I spend. My budget for a projector around $3000. Is it worth the extra money or is there an even better pick. I have enjoyed the reviews on this site
JCP, Finally found someone that has experienced a Dwin tranvision 2 and knows of the quality it can give, And you are right no parts or anything from dwin anymore. Actually the dwin still performs really well with the exception that the last new lamp goes out with the projector still running, not hot and if you unplug the screen so it won't run up and down just turn the projector off then right back on it works great again, sometimes it will run forever 2-3-4 full length movies then it takes it on it's own to start in again every 2 to 15 minutes or so. Who knows??? Anyway thanks for your answer to my question and I have narrowed it down to the 8000u or the 6020,decisions decisions but am ready to go one way or the other. One problem is I don't have a dealer within a couple hundred miles of here and not sure how to buy either one. internet is scary. Anyway I know this is long so will stop here and thanks again for your answer. Jer
http://panasonic.net/avc/projector/catalog/pdf/PT-AE8000G1.pdf
Harv, not sure if this goes to your comment re: compatibility with anamorphic lenses, but the brochure found at the above link states the following: "Featuring a wide range of aspect modes, including ones for anamorphic lenses. (JUST/4:3/16:9/S16:9/14:9/ZOOM1/ZOOM2/ H-FIT/V-FIT) NOTE: The selectable modes vary depending on the input signal." By the way, I believe the manual is a bit misleading. On page 61, it shows V-FIT available for certain signals input via HDMI. On page 62, as you mention in your post, the manual states "(Not available with HDMI signal.)," however I believe that statement refers to the phrase immediately proceeding it. In other words, you can use V-FIT over HDMI, but you cannot manually adjust it with the up/down buttons. I have the PT-AE8000U and while viewing a 1080i signal over HDMI (DirecTV), I can choose V-FIT as aspect ratio but cannot manually adjust the setting.
In the shoot out review (PTAE-8000 vs. the Epson 5020UB Shootout: Epson 5020UB vs Panasonic AE8000) it states "The AE8000 has an anamorphic stretch mode for compatibility with anamorphic lenses" The brochures states nothing about this. The Manual for the PTAE8000U Pg. 62 shows vertical fit not available for HDMI inputs and no mention of Vertical stretch in the manual. Is there a different version of this model? I do not see this feature. Please clarify. Either prove this or print a retraction.
my pt ae 8000 produce a blink image in eco mode but not in normal mode
ShADI: YES. IT WILL ACCEPT UP T0 240
This projector does support SBS (side by side). You can select it under 3D Settings > 3D Input Format.
Does anyone know if this projecter supports 3D SBS Mode? I have been looking for that info and cannot seem to find it, but I could be blind, or maybe there is another term for the same thing.
Thanks in advance for your help Dan
After 3 weeks of this message being displayed one of the guys at the store I bought it from thought it might be in service mode. I'm still waiting for the panasonic canada to get back to me on this. Has anyone ever had projector come out of the box in service mode before??
I have just bought the panasonic 8000 and am getting a number on the top left of my screen since install, not sure what this is but I can't seem to remove and panasonic couldn't answer what it was either. The code is mm:1.03 sm:1.11 f:1.00 im:1.02
My AE8000 has just arrived and I've noticed that there are restrictions on projector placement if you want to achieve a constant image height for both 16x9 and 2.35:1. With extreme lens shift, the projected image translates vertically when zoomed out, such that the screen for 16x9 is not fully covered when zoomed out for 2.35:1. In these extreme mounting positions, manual adjustment of the lens shift is required for each aspect ratio change. Panasonic hasn't provided mounting guidance for constant image height use, attainable only through remote control.
I recently installed the PTAE8000U with a 125" 2:35 JKP 1.1 gian screen. I am pleased with the brightness, but not very pleased with the blacks. Walls are black. Furniture is dark. Ceiling unfortunately is white, which is a factor reducing the contrast ratio somewhat. Room has no significant ambient light. I am wondering why reveiwers seam to refuse to test and provide ANSI contrast measurments. I think this is a very important test and greatly adds to the overall contrast perfomance assessment. So come on Bill, please add this test info to the reports.
What size screen will it fill if I put it in a room that is only 9 feet wide?
has anyone tried 200inch?? does it work well or too dark?
What is the lag time using the different modes? There is no mention of it in the review.
No mention of IR vs RF glasses. Is there much difference? I've read that IR glasses can lose signal with the turn of the head to talk to someone.
Im doing installation of hometheater as my business, i did install more than 20 panasonic projector including 7000 & 8000, i can confirm that they both are great projector's , but the 8000 is more brighter and is better in 3D , i used it on 183 inch screen 16x9 (very large screen) and it did lit up the screen, but you have to dim the lights abit, but if your screen is smaller that 130 inch, then it would be so bright, even if there is some light, if you compare it with epson, i am sure that the pani gives crisper picture
Can someone please clarify if this projector has the vertical stretch (Vertical Fill) feature, to allow this projector to work with anamorphic lens'. I do not see it mentioned on the Test repot nor in the manual or brochure. Also is there any reason I would not want to use the Prismasonic HD-6000R lens?
i am planning to order this projector and have it shipped from the US (I live in Qatar) , does it only accept 120v or will it take 220-240v input ?
thanks.
Great review! Debating between this one and the Mits 8000. For a 120" screen in a dedicated theater room, will the Panny provide enough light for 3D on that screen? I've read that the Mitsubishi's are a little "dimmer" than the Panny's for 3D. Will also wait for your Epson review.
The effect of a time delay between left & right eye images due to sequential display timing is well documented in research papers. The effect is to convert a flat pendulum motion into a perceived circular motion. Thus if an object is moving left to right (or right to left), the time delay between left & right eye images changes the perceived stereoscopic distance (i.e. the convergence angle between the two eyes is changed such that the pendulum appears closer when moving left and farther when moving right, or vice versa). Stereoscopically, the moving object appears closer or farther than it would if stationary. A panning image would also change apparent distace for the same reason but would be less noticable because there is no reference distance as there is with the background next to a moving object.
first thanks for you review. it was very helpful. i might be like many others out there who don't have a dedicated home theatre. instead i just use my projector in the living room. Normally especially if I use the projector at night, it is relatively dark in the room, but in the daytime even with all the shutters closed, there is still light in the room. Any thoughts on how well this projector would do in such circumstances?
is panasonic AE8000 has wireless in it ?
or what accessories i can use to connect it wireless ?
Jer, I used to have the Dwin DLP TV2 and loved it. When it broke 3 years ago and I could not get parts, I purchased the Panasonic 4000 and was not dissapointed. Hard to believe that a $2,500 projector was as good or better than the $10,000 Dwin. The new 8000 is a step up from the 4000, you will be happy with the quality.
Jesse - the AE8000 comes with two pairs of 3D glasses.
Jer - Yes, you should upgrade. Yes, you will see a difference. Yes, it will be for the better. You are in for a pleasant surprise. Brian - Panasonic's frame interpolation systems are perfect for fast motion, especially fast-motion video like sports.
How is this PT-Ae8000u with fast motion such as football?How do you compare this with other projectors handling of fast motion?
Bill, Your reviews are great thanks, My question is this, I have a Dwin tranvision 2 dlp projector for over ten years now tome to upgrade. At that time period $11,000. My screen is 1.35 Firehawk 110 inch diag. (stewart) Question, Will any of these new lower priced projectors like the panasonic 8000u, epson 6010, or jvc (lower end) Give me the picture quality (film like) that this Dwin has for the last ten to twelve years? I have a large living room with pretty much total light control. Thank you -- Jer
Just wanted to know if this projector came with 3d glasses or would they be separate accessories i woud have to purchase?
Hi folks - thanks for writing. Apologies for not commenting sooner but I've been busy with other projectors.
Ian - If you think the AE7000 had horrible crosstalk, I don't know what to tell you. Have you talked to Panasonic warranty support? The AE7000 had very low crosstalk compared to other projectors in that generation. We put every projector we see through the 3D wringer, and I am hypersensitive to crosstalk, so if I don't mention it it's because it wasn't a problem. KevinP - very little. Carlos - For most people I would recommend the AE8000. The W7000 is a great projector but I don't think it can stand up to the AE8000's image quality and unique features. EeeCeeTee - If you mean for the lamp, no. Lamp warranties are always going to have limits. I wouldn't be surprised if, when LED projectors finally make it out, their light sources limit the warranty to 5,000 hours or something like that. Khang - much less than on previous generations. And the screen door effect has not been a problem for a few years now, but Panasonic's Smooth Screen filter makes it even less of a problem on Panny HT projectors. Paul - I believe so, yes. Ted - I understand your concern, however modern home theater projectors are very quiet compared to even a few years ago. Where are you mounting your projector that you can still hear the fan? We have ours on a rear shelf maybe 5 feet from the audience and it's like it's not even there. That's true for most HT projectors these days, not just this one. Guy - We're only going to compare the AE8000 against other projectors released this year. The main one is going to be the Epson 5020 which we don't have yet. Comparing this year's model against last year's model doesn't tell us anything useful. R2D2 - Yes, that is the primary purpose - anamorphic display without the anamorphic lens. On a screen that large you might worry about brightness, so I'd use Cinema 2 for sure. Milo - We're excited to see the Epson 5020 as well. It should be here soon! Brian - you're welcome! IAN - I assume you're the same Ian. I still don't know what "crosstalk/ghosting issue" you're talking about, since we saw very little on the AE7000. However, you should know that Panasonic did some research and found that some crosstalk was temperature-related, so they adjusted the temperature control inside the unit and have reduced crosstalk even further. Mark - I don't mind people asking for more. It means they're interested and reading, and that's all I can ask for. Usually if I don't mention something it's because I think there are other more important things to discuss. If I talked about every aspect of the projector we'd end up with a 10,000-word review and no one would read it, so I have to be selective of what makes the cut. Since I didn't see a problem with crosstalk last year, I didn't mention it this year. Clearly this bothered some folks. Hopefully my comments here will put some of that to rest. Travis - I've never heard this; do you have a source? I'd like to read more. Michael - we will always mention convergence if it is a problem, but it doesn't merit a discussion in every review. A few Epson projectors years back had a serious panel alignment problem and it featured prominently in the review of those models. The same goes for edge-to-edge sharpness. If you don't see a potential problem mentioned, it's because the projector doesn't have that problem. It doesn't mean we didn't test it. James - I'll be happy to tell you as soon as we see an Epson 5020. Chris - Hey, thanks for the feedback. Looks like your experience mirrors my own. skgupta - It can give you the 2.35:1 experience using Lens Memory, but no, it does not have a built-in anamorphic lens. I think that's everyone. Thanks again for reading. We should have the Epson 5020 soon, and I'll get to work on it as soon as it arrives.
Does AE8000 have builtin Anamorphic Lens and can it offer 2.35:1 contrast ratio without going for any optional lens?
Excellent review, thanks Bill. Everyone seems to be carrying on about crosstalk. I've sold more PT-AE7000 units than any other individual retail store in Australia, and have performed professional video calibration on most of them. At no time have I encountered 3D crosstalk issues, or anything else, that could not be attributed to another weak link in the system. That is not to say they are perfect, but I can assure you that for the money, there is nothing better right now. Eagerly anticipating the arrival of the 8000 to Australia later this month, I have already pre-sold most of Panasonic's first shipment. And may I just say, that on the extremely rare occasions that a Panasonic product needs to be serviced or replaced under warranty, the support from Panasonic is every bit as good as Epson. Buy this projector with confidence.
In terms of brigthness and black level, wihich is better, Epson 5020 or Panasonic PT AE8000?
The 8000 sounds like a very nice projector, but we did not get any feedback in the review on the optics, such as focus from center to edges, chromatic aberation, and panel convergence, nor 3d crosstalk.
Not saying it could not be the projector but most Ghosting/Crosstalk issues are do to bad cables.
Thanks for the review. As a builder reviewer of precision scientific equipment I know how hard it is to be informative, and handed and speak to everyone even those who want more detail than needed for a thorough review, yet offer no information on their own.
Good work and very helpful
Having issues with a JVC DLA-x3 at present anybodys thoughts on jvc would be appreciated may have to look at a possible replacement in the fiture
There is no discussion concerning 3D "ghosting" (cross-talk) in the review. It would be helpful if you tried Giants of Patagonia or Dinosaurs Alive with the AE8000 and see if it can handle this very difficult material. I'm currently using both an Acer 5360 and an Epson 6010 for 3D. If the Panasonic was as good or better at handling cross-talk than the 6010 I'd consider it. If it was as good with cross-talk (none) as the 5360 I'd probably buy it.
I've been waiting to replace my 8700ub for the new epson 5020, but i was wondering how would the reviews of epson 5020 vs panasonic ae8000?
can you answer some of our questions please..or do a deeper updated review..not mentioning the crosstalk/ghosting issue from the 7000 makes it seem like you avoided the issue and the 8000 is no better from you not mentioning it.
I just want to say thank you for your reviews, specifically the additional concern of Input Lag with regards to gaming. I'm a gamer as well as a movie viewer and this addition is missing on several other sites. Thanks again for all your efforts and keep up the reviews! Looking forward to your thoughts on the new Epson 5020 and 6020 that were just released.
Panasonic AE8000 looks impressive but I have to wait for the Epson 5020. Epson warranty service is just too good for me to consider anything else. This is based on my experience with two Epson projectors over the last several years. Whenever I had a problem with my Epson unit they did not try to blame it on the usage and sent me a replacement immediately. They even replaced a bulb which burnt out prematurely even though the unit was out of warranty.
Will this pj support a Constant Image Height setup with it's zoom memory zoom feature?
What issues would I face using this projector on a 144" 2.40 screen?
I am also disappointed with the lack of any more in depth discussion about it's 3D picture quality. Crosstalk? brightness? Also, comparisons against other projectors would have been great.
I'd appreciate a bit more scientific testing in these reviews regarding fan noise. For example, I held of buying an AE7000 becauase I read it was louder (in eco mode) compared to my AE4000 (in eco as well). A "db" rating of fan noise in eco while displaying a test image between AE4000-->AE7000-->AE8000 would be most helpful for us "noise sensitive" folks.
Is the Eco mode input specific? I'd like to run cinema modes in normal and the brighter modes in eco.
Being that this projector is LCD based is there any motion blur? Also I have always noticed the screen door effect on LCD based projectors does this projector have that same characteristic?
With the warranty now two years, did Panasonic change (or drop) the hour limitation as well?
How would you rate this projector vs the benq w7000?
This PJ has be intrigued, especially lens memory supporting 3D, which the AE4000 had that AE7000 lacked. The brightness and contrast boost are also welcome. Love my current Optoma HD33, but its lack of lens shift & generally being a pain to install, has me considering the AE8000.
are there any signs of cross talk ?
this review is a lttle bit dissapointing..theres no word on crosstalk issues..the ae7000 had horrible crosstalk and I wanted to know if the 3d was much cleaner as far as ghosting/crosstalk..did you throw any difficult 3d at this? I do appreciate the lag numbers! please answer my question...also are the black levels better or the same as the 7000?
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