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Panasonic PT-AE3000 Projector 60000:1 Contrast Ratio
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$3,499 MSRP

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Panasonic PT-AE3000
家庭影院投影机
Evan Powell,2008年10月13日
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Jack Liu(dupin67)翻译

时不时会有一家投影机制造商突然之间小宇宙爆发,击出场外全垒打。今年秋天的新机器Panasonic PT-AE3000就是这种情况。Panasonic第三代1080p家庭影院投影机,将一系列惊人的功能和丰富而令人满足的图像质量相结合,并且以3499美元的厂商指导零售价格上市。AE3000作为一个堪称最新业界标准的杰出成就,将使投影机产业重新思考1080p投影机的定价。人们会想知道,当你能够以接近3000美元的成交价获得极佳的高对比度1080p画面质量以及一大堆无比优越的功能时,一些品牌对1080p投影机动辄开价超过10000美元的情况还能持续多久?

产品规格

ANSI流明:1600
对比度(full on/off):60000:1
光路引擎:1920 x1080,原生16:9,0.74英寸LCD,带165瓦UHM灯泡。
视频兼容性:1080p/24/50/60,1080i,720p,576p,576i,480p,480i。NTSC/PAL/SECAM。
连接面板:三组HDMI 1.3端口,一组15针VGA输入,两组3-RCA YPbPr分量视频,一组复合视频,一组S-video,一组9针D-sub串口(RS-232c)。
镜头和投影距离:2.00:1电动变焦/对焦镜头,带有手动垂直和水平方向镜头移位。投100英寸对角线16:9图像需要10到20英尺(注:3.05米到6.10米)。
灯泡寿命:未说明。
灯泡价格:400美元。
质保:一年。

Panasonic PT-AE3000

关键特色和优势

在去年的AE2000评测中我们曾经说过,AE2000拥有太多独一无二并且值得注意的功能,以至于我们不知道从何谈起。对于AE3000来说,这张开列着各项功能的清单甚至更长。AE3000最引人瞩目的特征是1)极大改进的对比度,2)用于表现更为平滑的图像的Frame Creation功能,3)一个用于游戏的快速帧传输选项,以及4)用于搭建2.35:1屏幕的Lens Memory功能。

对比度。就画面质量而言,唯一最吸引人的改进是对比度。AE3000呈现出比AE2000高得多的对比度。我们在AE2000上测得305:1 ANSI对比度,而在AE3000上这个数值跃升到让人印象非常深刻的446:1。

这些数字听起来似乎不算大。然而,ANSI对比度所衡量的是投影机在某一特定图像帧的动态范围潜力,或者说,在同一瞬间黑色和白色之间的真实差异。ANSI对比度数值从来都比Full On/Full Off对比度数值低很多,因而很少被作为官方性能指标公布。就实际而言,从305:1跳变到446:1意味着在屏幕上能够观测到可见对比度的大幅增加。事实上,446:1是我们在LCD投影机上所测到过的最高ANSI对比度数值,该数值使LCD的ANSI对比度性能非常接近于DLP竞争机型。

与此同时,Full On/Off对比度也被改进了。AE2000标称为16000:1,而AE3000为60000:1。我们的对比度测试证实了AE3000的Full On/Off性能的确有质的提高。但本质上讲,单看这些数值没有意义。只有黑色层次、快速光圈动作、ANSI对比度以及Full On/Off对比度的结合,才能在屏幕上产生活力四射而充满立体感的最终观感。而AE3000确实有充沛的实力,当与AE2000进行AB对比时,相比在AE2000上所能得到的黑色和阴影细节,AE3000的黑色明显深得多,而阴影细节更远远凌驾于AE2000之上。

流明输出。AE3000不仅具有杰出的对比度,还具有优异的流明输出范围。Dynamic(动态)模式最为明亮,在我们的测试样机上测得1273流明。出厂缺省设置下,Dynamic模式的画面偏绿。但如果将红色往上调5格,绿色向下减两格,最后会得到一个非常明亮、并且看上去令人非常愉快的画面。其色彩不是完美校准的,但原本非常明显的偏绿被极大地减弱,相信大多数非发烧友级别的观众会认为画面相当令人满意。对于Super Bowl聚会或其它需要额外亮度来抵抗环境光线的活动来说,Dynamic是一个极好的运行模式。(注:Super Bowl即超级碗橄榄球赛,美国职业橄榄球联盟决赛。)

大多数视频发烧友会选择色彩平衡更为完美的运行模式。相比最大流明指标的轻微提升(AE3000的1600流明 vs. AE2000的1500流明),AE3000在此类模式下显示出比AE2000在流明输出上的更大改进。两个型号都有三种截然不同的Cinema(影院)校准模式,分别标记为1、2、3。去年我们在AE2000上测得的三种模式的流明输出分别为345、390和370。但在AE3000上,我们在相同的三种模式上测得亮度分别为358,470和566。此外,Normal(正常)模式是Cinema模式和Dynamic模式之间的一个极好的折衷,它有792流明,却没有多少色彩方面的损失需要担心。上个周末我在家里举行了一次大型聚会,使用了AE3000的Normal模式播放了音乐会的蓝光碟。鲜明、真实而有立体感的图像将我的客人们惊得目瞪口呆。我听到最多的评价是--"既然有这个东西代替,为何还要去音乐会现场?"

最后需要提醒的是,变焦镜头的位置和灯泡的经济模式都会减少各个运行模式的流明输出。经济模式将会把流明消减18%,而变焦镜头的最大远摄位置,流明输出降低多达41%。因此如果你需要最大流明输出,请尽可能地使用变焦镜头的广角端。

Frame Creation。AE3000上有一个Panasonic称之为Frame Creation的新功能。在激活之后,它允许投影机评估前面数帧的运动状态,生成一个插值帧作为中间帧,将其插入到帧序列当中。接着,根据信号源是30、60还是24帧每秒,以120Hz或者96Hz进行重放。你有三种选择:关闭,模式1,模式2。如果你想完全禁止这项功能,可以选择"关闭"。模式1使用前面两帧进行插值,而模式2使用之前的三帧。

Frame Creation的好处在于,在摄影机摇摄全景的时侯,或者细节丰富的物体在屏幕上掠过的时侯,可以呈现出一个更为平滑,更为锐利的图像。锐化效果在模式2中比在模式1中更为显著。你可能会奇怪,为何Panasonic提供了将其关闭的选项?其原因在于,虽然Frame Creation锐化了图像,但对一些观众而言,它也使得图像看起来不太像正常的电影。即Frame Creation可能会产生让一些人反感的效果。因此,你可以先尝试一下这个功能,然后自己决定选择"关闭"、模式1或模式2。

当你激活Frame Creation功能时,它会增加视频处理时间,从而延迟了图像到屏幕的传输。即使Frame Creation关闭,一般来说你仍然会看见一点点视频延迟(在口型同步上最为明显)。延迟在模式1中变得较为明显,而在模式2中就更明显了。如果你刚开始接触家庭影院,那么需要记住,所有的视频处理系统或多或少都会表现出一点视频延迟,可能导致口型同步的问题。这是因为,与将音频信号输送给扬声器相比,缓存和处理视频信号流需要花费更多的时间。解决这个问题的办法是采用与视频延时对应的、大多数AV功放和外部视频处理器都具备的音频延时功能。或者也可以使用某种专门设备,例如我们实验室所使用的物美价廉的Felston音频延迟器(见评测)。音频延时使你能够将声音和画面再一次完美同步,因此是搭建家庭影院时的重要一环。

Gaming Mode。对游戏来说,视频延迟不是好事情,而音频延迟也无法解决这个问题(游戏画面的变化相对于游戏者的操作动作有一个无法消除的延迟)。为了解决这个问题,AE3000有一项应该然而却没有被称为Gaming Mode(游戏模式)的功能。这个功能被称为Frame Response(帧响应),可以让你调整从缓存中传输图像帧的速度。你可以选择"Normal"和"Fast"。"Normal"将提供正常的视频处理速度,其结果是约3帧的帧延迟(假设Frame Creation关闭)。"Fast"将消除一些标准视频处理程序的开销,从而将帧延迟减少为约1.5帧。在Normal和Fast之间切换时,你能够看到这个功能对口型同步产生的效果:即在Fast模式下,口型同步的问题几乎完全消失。对于视频画面来说,无法在任何一台数字视频显示设备上呈现出零延迟的完全同步,因此AE3000的快速帧传输功能已经算是做到了最好。将AE3000设置为快速帧响应模式,选择Dynamic图像校准模式,再加以一些色彩的调教,你最终能获得一个极为出色的高清晰度游戏系统。

(顺便讲一讲,我们尝试了在设置Frame Response到"fast"的情况下激活Frame Creation,目的是想看看投影机是否会冒烟。很明显,工程师们预料到了这一招。AE3000仅仅缺省设置为Frame Creation并忽略了Frame Response设置为"fast"的命令。AE3000明白自己有时候会落到某些傻瓜手里。)

Lens Memory。你是否对超宽2.35:1屏幕格式感兴趣?对宽屏幕电影(相对于HDTV体育节目和16:9高清广播而言)甚为关注的众多家庭影院发烧友,目前正在考虑更宽的2.35比例屏幕,因为大多数电影都是以这种格式制作的。问题始终在于如何将从原生16:9格式的投影机画面填满一个2.35:1宽屏幕。传统的方法是使用一个外置的变形镜头,能够将图像以光学的方式进行延伸,从16:9宽高比变成更宽的2.35:1格式。这当然是一种方法。不幸的是,变形镜头相当昂贵。一般来说它们都比AE3000更贵。因此这种方案所增加的花费是大多数考虑购买AE3000的人所不愿付出的。

"穷人"解决这个问题的办法是,使用一台具有足够长变焦镜头的投影机,来回改变图像大小--变焦到广角端来投满2.35:1屏幕,然后在观看16:9或者4:3图像时,向前变焦(缩小图像)来填满屏幕的垂直高度。这种方法消除了购买变形镜头的必要性,然而它带来了一些麻烦,即你将不得不在每次更换节目格式的时候,手动调整变焦镜头以及(通常还有)画面的垂直高度。在比较着急的时候进行这种调整会让人相当恼火。

Panasonic的"Lens Memory(镜头记忆)"系统是一个聪明而令人兴奋的解决方案。如果你拥有一张2.35:1(或者2.4:1)屏幕,你可以将投影机设置在广角镜头位置,用2.35:1(或者2.4:1)的电影画面将屏幕恰好填满。激活Lens Memory功能,投影机就会执行一个程序记下你为镜头选择的精确位置。接下来改变镜头焦距,使一个16:9画面的高度正好等于2.35:1屏幕的高度。现在再次激活Lens Memory功能,投影机也会记下这个设置。一旦你完成了上述设置,那么只需要按一个键,AE3000就可以自动将镜头重置为2.35:1或者16:9的位置。真是神奇!你已经获得了一个易于使用的2.35:1超宽屏幕电影解决方案,并且避免了购买变形镜头所带来的难以承受的花销。

我们仔细的考察了这项功能,目的是想确保变焦调节准确无误,以及确保对焦的准确性在每次自动调整后能够始终保持。我们的测试样机以优异的成绩通过了测试。此外,记住一件事:如果你的投影机安装在屏幕的中心点之上(以一个向下的角度进行投影),当从2.35:1移动到16:9时,图像的中心会上下移动。好消息是AE3000具有将2.35:1图像在16:9原始帧中进行上下方向的重定位的功能,并且该功能被集成在了Lens Memory功能之内。因此如果你的投影机安装在屏幕中心以上的位置,你可以将镜头的位置以及图像在16:9原始帧中的上下位置都进行设置,从而两者都能够在一键切换时得到调整。

Smooth-screen滤镜。Panasonic家庭影院投影机一直以其Smooth Screen技术而著称--该技术本质上是一个能消除可见像素的滤镜。AE3000同样具有这项功能,但似乎有了些细微的调整。AE2000和其上代机型AE1000是我们所见过的所有1080p投影机中唯一绝对没有像素结构的两台机器。在AE3000上,当在足够近的距离上观看时有(相比AE1000、AE2000)更明显的像素结构,而在正常观看距离上则仍然完全不可见。然而,看起来这个滤镜似乎被轻微地调整过,从而避免完全消除像素结构的痕迹。对我们来说,这种变化带来了方便,因为它有助于精细的对焦。理论上讲,一点点像素结构的存在,应该也能够对获得一个稍微更锐利一些的画面有所助益。AE3000确实显得比AE2000更为锐利,然而很难将对比度的增加和滤镜的调整所导致的锐度提高加以区别。当图像在其它方面条件相同时,更高对比度的图像看上去总是更为锐利一些,并且,无论以任何标准,我们都绝不会说AE2000的图像偏柔。

新的遥控器。AE2000有一个大而复杂的学习型遥控器,可以用于控制影院中的好几样设备。这个遥控器被弃之不用,取而代之的是一个更小更符合人机工程学的遥控器,具有大而容易操作的按键,以及很好的背光。总的来说,我们相当喜欢这个新遥控器。

其它功能。许多让AE2000广受欢迎的功能被延续到了AE3000上。风扇噪音仍然很低--在全功率模式下也仅仅相当于耳语的程度。即使在高海拔模式,当风扇因为稀薄的大气而移动额外的大量空气时,机器仍然是非常安静。在经济模式下,以任何实际标准而言,风扇都是寂静的--除非把耳朵靠近投影机,否则你无法判断机器是否在运转。

AE2000上出现的机载波形监视器曾经是一大卖点,AE3000同样也有。这个系统有助于进行精密的校准,对投影机玩家而言是一个非常好的工具。

同样,分屏校准功能是去年引入的另外一个很受欢迎的功能。这是一项你在其它家庭影院投影机上找不到的功能。下面是它的用法。以一帧你想作为模版进行调整的屏幕图像开始,像下面这样…

在你定格了需要的这一帧之后,只需激活分屏选项,一个矩形选择窗口会弹出来。你可以来回移动这个窗口来确定你想具体调整的图像的哪一部分。

一旦选定了想要的部分,投影机将会复制该部分,这样就会得到两个并列的完全相同的拷贝。

现在你可以进行任何想做的调整,包括色温,色彩饱和度,亮度,对比度,gamma。投影机将对屏幕右侧的图像应用你所作的调整,同时保持左侧的图像不变。用这种方式,你能够确切地看到你所做改动的效果。你可以选择保存或者放弃你尝试的改动。对于许多用户来说,这是一个很好的教学工具,用于理解投影机所提供的各种调整选项的本质及其调整范围。

局限

去年,为了找出AE2000上可以加以抱怨的地方,我们相当伤脑筋,而这项任务对AE3000来说加倍困难了。当然,对于那些打算吊装投影机的人来说,如果可以选择白色外观就更好了。在起居室或其它多功能房间中,在白色天花板下面安装AE3000,其暗灰色的外壳可能从审美观点上来说不够令人愉快。然而,在一间专门的视听室中就不会有任何区别了。

去年我们曾提到Cinema模式下较低的流明输出带来了一些限制,但在AE3000上这一点已经被纠正了。

质保为一年,对于投影机行业来讲是最低可接受的质保期限。许多家庭影院投影机带有两年质保,并且个别型号带有三年质保。另一方面,你可以额外购买一年或两年质保,并且仍然可以获得一台极为物有所值的投影机。

结论

Panasonic AE3000将是这一年里最热卖的投影机之一。凭借令人吃惊的原生高对比度的图像质量以及让人印象深刻的一系列在竞争对手身上找不到的独一无二的功能,Panasonic已经确立了一个令人望而生畏的、他人难以企及的性价比述求。

对于今年秋天我们正在评测的1080p型号,在我们能够进行AB对比测试之前,我们将暂缓五星评级。然而,就我们在实验室中已经观看过的机型,以及我们看过的所有其它机型的演示,我们能够肯定的预告,AE3000将在功能易用性以及价值上获得5颗星,并很有可能在性能上也获得5颗星。对于我们的编辑选择奖来说,它是最为强悍的1080p竞争者,虽然我们最终可能会对今年的1080p级别颁发两个编辑选择奖。Panasonic创造出了将投影机行业最高水准带入新的里程碑的非凡的家庭影院投影机,为此,我们向Panasonic的产品市场和设计工程师致以祝贺。(完)

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Posted Dec 23, 2008 4:18:05 PM

By Nabi

Kevin your comments re: pricing are right on again. I don't know whether Nossy should be taken at face value or is, perhaps, an industry mole out to misguide us. (Call me a cynic but I am always suspicious of consumers who ananonymously argue in favor of high prices.)Certainly going from 1/4 hidef to full hidef over 5 years or so shouldn't require the prices we're seeing; also, there are large and medium sized Chinese firms now doing everything from design to production (Javes comes to mind). It's likely that we're paying excessively for mere tweaking and 'badge engineering'. NOW IS NOT A GOOD TIME TO BUY: the economic crisis might bring the industry around to a more reasonable point of view. On the other hand, they might just ask us for a bailout.

Posted Dec 23, 2008 1:11:23 AM

By HTE

About the anamorphic zoom memory feature...I think people are missing something here. Movies shot is 2.35:1 or similar and displayed on a 16:9 format projector have the top and bottom 1/3 of the image "switched off" hence the balc bars. What people don't realise is this means that you get about 40% less light output and your image is only 1920 x 700 (approx) zooming to make it fit a screen just pushes the black bars off the screen but does nothing to resurrect the lost lumens, plus of course your pixel size is now huge. Until we get widescreen projectors the only way to get full res' full light output in anamorphic movies is with an anamorphic lens. This is a great projector but the anamorphic zoom is really a "hack" which will suit some but you will never get the snap and boom of true anamorphic widescreen. As long as buyers realise this then they wont be disappointed.

Posted Dec 22, 2008 8:16:56 PM

By Robert Best

I have the AE2000 (really great) on a 140" screen and want to upgrade to the AE3000 (wow) BUT I am very interested in 3D (stereoscopic) videos, which are gaining momentum. Can this projector operate in straight 120 Hz frame rate or somesuch without performing frame interpolation, which would wipe out Frame Alternating 3D? I don't want to paint myself into a corner when 3D hits the big time (soon). Panasonic is showcasing a large plasma 3D system with material on BD (special player?) but I would like the AE3000 to carry some label saying "3D Ready!" Anybody know anything?

Posted Dec 22, 2008 8:50:08 AM

By digi-head

Can anyone confirm if the lens memory feature will work if you are using a horizontal lens shift? I understand that the vertical zooming effects are compensated for by digitally shifting the image up or down, which throws out top or bottom lines which were black bars anyway, but there are no vertical black bars, so I'm guessing that the memory feature can't compensate for a horizontal shift. Am I correct??

Posted Dec 22, 2008 6:42:53 AM

By kevinp

Nossy, There is a huge price difference between the cheapest projectors & the latest 1080p models. yet the same / similar wages,development, advertising, legal costs, 25% Markup apply to all. The jump from HD ready to Full HD technology is probably smaller than that of SD to HD Ready. But the price increases are much greater.

P.S. paulin congratulations on your purchase (if I were buying now its the one i'd go for). But I'am holding off until the projector room is completed and this may take some time :( Its just to hot here and the beach it to close. And who knows what CES 2009 may bring.

Posted Dec 18, 2008 12:32:07 PM

By Nossy

Why is the price alot more than it cost to manufacture it?? The expense is easy to calculate. Don't think the cost of assembling the product is all that should be factor into the final price of the product. It take Engineers/Designers (60,000-100,000/year salary) to implement and test out the features. Not to mention QA department. Applications for patents, lawyers to make sure you don't mess with othe company IPs, etc. And in addition, markups from resellers (middleman) so they can profit. Why does LCD/Plasma prices comes down really fast in price? Simple answer also. Supply and Demand. LCD/plasma sale figures is magnitudes higher than projectors. I know ALOT of people and only a handful of them owns a projector while most of them have 2-3 flat panels at home. It's no point in building a $50million dollar factory to manufacture a lower volume, low profit product. Most likely the R&D are done in-house, and manufacturing the product is outsourced to China/Taiwan. And of course they have to back-calculate how much money they have put in R&D and in advertisements, etc. It is important to continue researching and having the technology in place just in case the technology gets hot and everyone starts buying it.

Not only that, projectors are not as out-of-box friendly as flat panels and rear projectors. Often times they require a dedicated room.

Posted Dec 12, 2008 4:33:05 PM

By paulin gallus

(and hi Kevinp) I've now had the panasonic PT AE3000 for 4 magical weeks, and watched a lot of blu ray media on it (there isnt that much media yet however). It's superb, the trusty old barco graphics 808 is in the hallway ready to sell on ebay. I've run my own HVRZ1E morrocan footage on it as well at 1080i 50p. I run it about 6 meters/yards back and the wall is diagonal 200 inches for films in 2:40:1 according to my learned daughter as i dont read the labels. the room is large. Ok, the black is not as stunning as the CRT systems, the wall is a white matt dulux ICI paint rolled over a plaster skim, (in the uk this is the norm and its not optically flat but okish ), i don't even use special paint yet but probably will. I'll experiment with grey paint first that may get a better perceived black level. It's very VERY bright, so i switched it onto long life mode. films run are 2001 space odyssey, to transformers. BBC HD Planet Earth (16:9) All the features work easily. SD dvd rendering is good. Stunning natural colours in all modes. Not "aware" of any fast action motion artefacts except on normal SD PAL DVDs via HDMI. Easy to use menus and remote. I use 5 old tannoy 15 inch monitors for audio + 15 inch subw. (it's in the basement of a recording studio)

Oh [censored] this is a nice projector I am so glad I waited. It's cold in west wales and raining all the time, local cinema is 15 miles away in a flea pit of bad surround sound and noisy locals, I am at home all warm wrapped up in a duvet watching fantastic images... thanks Panasonic...happy Christmas all.

Posted Dec 12, 2008 1:23:12 PM

By rickirick

Would like to see Panasonic come out with simlar model with all features except the power zoom and power focus, maybe $1000 less.

Posted Dec 5, 2008 7:44:27 AM

By Johnny

Projector Central: Any chance of a "shootout" between the Panasonic PT-AE3000 and the Sanyo PLV-Z3000? The PLV-Z3000 seems to be similarly equipped, although fully manual in operation.

Posted Nov 26, 2008 3:01:49 PM

By tomo

I bought this today, really the best projector on the market for value.

Posted Nov 24, 2008 4:15:59 PM

By Moike

I just installed this projector as a replacement for my outdated Infocus X1. I expected great things, and this projector exceeded my expectations. At 126" diagonal in eco-mode the projector has plenty of brightness for the cinema modes. The image even tolerates full room lighting pretty well in both normal and dynamic modes.

My only disappointment is that I was really looking forward to the frame creation feature, since I don't like the motion judder of 24 fps. After turning it on, however, I found that I couldn't lose myself in the movie the way I normally do. It has a sort of "home video" feel to it that makes me feel like I'm standing next to the director and watching actors rather than looking through a window to an alternate reality. It's a neat feature but I think I'll leave it off personally.

Posted Nov 21, 2008 5:21:19 PM

By Art Feierman

Fred asked a while back, why Evan's review showed 566 lumens, and mine measured only 402.

I think that's an easy one. In the past, I think everyone used Cinema 1 on the Panny as it's "best, no compromise" mode for calibration. We measured that 402, compared to a similar 385 lumens by Evan. Without any calibration, the Cinema 3 mode we measured at only 422 lumens compared to his 566, but we found it's color temp was jut over 8000K, so it would need a huge amount of grayscale adjustment to get down to 6500K. Perhaps, when he got done, he had his 6500K, but perhaps less black level performance, etc. More strange is that we only found about 20 lumens difference (pre-calibration) between the three Cinema modes, whereas he found almost 200 lumens. They may well have calibrated it into an "almost as good as" Cinema 1, but with more lumens. That's the nice thing about multiple presets, many of my readers find they use intermediate modes to get more lumens, with little cost in overall picture.

I liked Evan's side by side of the Sony vs Panny. We just got our Sony in, and I still have the PT-AE3000U, so will also be viewing both side by side, post calibration, starting this weekend. Should be interesting -art

Posted Nov 19, 2008 10:31:07 AM

By tony

i use a TDP TW355 Toshiba and i will buy this week the AE3000 and i still think i am doing a good thing

Posted Nov 15, 2008 2:21:50 PM

By Nabi

Good point, Larry. And that's another reason I'm sticking by my old projector (used mainly for about7 hours or so of video a week) at least until the price point drops closer to 1M (more or less the max me mom will cough up.) You seem like a good man to lead the resistance. Let me suggest that videophiliacs interested in conquering the craving to perpetually tweak discuss their plans with mom or their spouse. Comments like 'You're crazy!' or 'What a stupid waste of money!' help counter the addiction. Incidentally, another person in the resistance told me that you can keep on using the bulb after it's supposed to have expired, simply by reinstalling it.

Posted Nov 14, 2008 2:45:52 PM

By Larry

The prices of the projectors are one thing, it's the price of the bulbs that's a killer! There is absolutely no reason in the world why bulbs need to be so expensive! Moreover they work to keep them expensive by not adopting an industry standard form factor. Not only that the intelligent electronics will prevent you from installing a different light source if, for example LED lamps ever become powerful enough. Imagine if every lamp in your home had a different socket for the lightbulb available from only one manufacturer? We wouldn't stand for it! We shouldn't stand for it in projectors either!

Posted Nov 8, 2008 10:31:12 PM

By firstnline

I just purchased the projector and went to start to tweak the waveform monitor. I am by no means techy, and was completely lost knowing where to start. Can anyone take me through the steps of how to bring the wave charts up, where do I get the commercial test screen and how to adjust the colors? The big white line just kept jumping up and down the chart, and I could not tell the difference between adjusting the color and contrast. HELP!!!! Cheers - Kev

Posted Nov 1, 2008 10:52:42 PM

By MikeG

How does Panasonic PT-AE3000 compare to Epson Home Theatre 6100? I think the Epson is more than 20% lower cost ($1999)

Posted Nov 1, 2008 4:40:02 PM

By TED

looks like that while this is an improvment for panasonic it still cant match the old 1080UB which still has a better black level. So that means the 7500UB will have the AE3000 licked easy for all out PQ quality.

From Arts blof at projector reviews http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog/2008/10/30/panasonic-pt-ae3000u-home-theater-projector-first-look/

Posted Oct 31, 2008 3:23:51 AM

By BenoitM

A couple of questions:

1) how serious is the lipsync issue ? ("Even with Frame Creation off, you will typically see a slight video delay"). I enjoy a SD DLP projector for 8 years now, and I want to go to HD, but this scares me.

2) I have a 4:3 screen now, and many videos in SD 4:3 (also many SDTV shows are still 4:3). I'm scared that with a 16:9 projector, 4:3 SD content would be displayed in a small area of the 4:3 screen because of the cumulative effect of top letterboxing due to 16:9 native projector and 4:3 lateral cropping due to 4:3 (with 1:1 pixels) program. Would be Lens Memory be of any help here (memory pos. #1 would be optimzed for 16:9 display and memory pos. #2 would be zoomed in for 4:3 display across the full 4:3 screen). Or does it work *only* for 16:9 vs 2.35:1 ?

Posted Oct 30, 2008 12:31:06 PM

By kevinp

Geoff P. Why donate a 1080 p projector to a school who can't make full use of it.

If anyone is thinking of doing this please donate it to me instead and I will send the school a PTAE 500 which they can use to the full :)

also why would anyone pay a fair price for a second hand Full HD projector if they don't need the extra resolution as they could find lower resolution ones much cheaper.

The solution to is allow the HDMI connection to accept other types of signal. That way anyone who needed could connect with a fairly cheap adapter.

However this would reduce the value of removing the connectors because part of the saving would be related to the processing of these signals.

Posted Oct 29, 2008 6:50:49 AM

By Geoff P.

Ed,

I agree with you for the most part. However, I don't see any harm in including s-video and composite. I'm sure that removing them wouldn't introduce much of a cost savings.

I would rather have inputs that I don't really need instead of needing inputs that I don't have. One thing it does is let me hook up my Wii right out of the box (it only comes with composite connections). It also adds value when you want to sell it later in it's life. You can sell or donate it to organizations (like schools) who wouldn't be in a position to use HDMI or component.

Posted Oct 28, 2008 10:30:24 PM

By Ed Woo

@ Liquidmetro re: "Your sweeping statement is applicable to those who only wish to use projectors with high def inputs for home use to display high def content."

This (AE3000) is a home theater projector, no? Then I agree with you. My sweeping statement is for "projectors...for home use to display hi-def content." Just to reaffirm my point here: if you're going to spend thou$ands for a dedicated home theater pj, why would one use the old-style composite/Svideo interconnects? So why would this respectable AE3000 even bother to include these inputs? Beats me.

Let me pose this question to everyone on this post: If you have or are planning to purchase this sweet piece of equipment, are you currently using or will you use the composite/Svideo inputs?

I concede the fact that the composite/Svideo inputs may be useful for multimedia pj's, but c'mon - do they still belong on home theater/high def projectors? We don't see Blu-ray mfgrs releasing any BD/VCR combo machines, do we?

Posted Oct 28, 2008 8:09:10 AM

By Liquidmetro

@ Ed Woo re: 'I always laugh at the fact that PJ manufacturers still include composite and S video inputs in their boxes, while touting an HDMI 1.3 input for hi-def content.'

Erm while S-Video and composite may not be useful if you are only considering hi-def, it is still of use to others. I had to buy an old MacBook Pro because Apple decided to remove compatibility with the older analogue connections (you can still get Analogue RGBHV via a minidisplay port to 'VGA' adapter, but then a scan (down) converter is needed). I am a visual artist and provide visuals alongside DJs/bands. The default PAL/NTSC industry standard video mixer only has S-Video/CV inputs as hi-def is along way off (live mixing of this size video too demanding - even with Dual Cores and 512MB of VRAM and 4GB RAM). I have used Matrox DualHead2Go's but this is only for 1280x480 (mixing between 2 x 640x480 and 1 x 1280x480 across twin projectors). By day I work in education as an AV Technician and we utlise all connections on the rear of the 100+ projectors I am responsible for.

To conclude different markets need different connectors (inc niche ones like mine). Your sweeping statement is applicable to those who only wish to use projectors with high def inputs for home use to display high def content.

Posted Oct 26, 2008 7:38:43 PM

By Nabi

Paul, you're luckly to have a wall that can give you such a large (150 inch) diagonal. Provided it's a flawless paint job, it may be better than a screen--assessing viewing characteristics is pretty subjective. After dweebing around with a screen (crinkles, bends, etc.) I finally settled on a sheet of white melamite fibreboard(6 bucks at Home Depot). The largest diagonal I can get with the standard sheet size is 98 inches but trimmed to 16/9 on my wall it looks pretty pro.

Posted Oct 26, 2008 6:42:56 PM

By paulin gallus

Thanks Kevin, I appreciate that as i handn't picked up on that specification! I am now 99 percent ready to order, i'll post what i find when i get it. In the uk you get 7 days to check your stuff if you buy it over the net, this is the "Distance Selling Regulations". My screen is a flat plastered wall and it's worked well over the years. I use normal white matt Dulux paint! I am also thinking of making my own screen if I can get a roll of suitable material. Stretching it like a trampoline on an aluminium tubular frame with rubber zig zags. Interesting time with projectors, I paid £1500 UK pounds for my stalwart Barco 808 6 years ago, and i love the blacks but PAL is PAL is PAL (and NTSC we used to call Never The Same Colour Twice!) even at 100Hz FR! thanks again and this site is brilliant as a guide, even tho i use sony in the pro world I am switching to Panasonic for the projector!!! Paul in Gallus (West Wales UK)

Posted Oct 26, 2008 9:29:27 AM

By kevinp

Paulus, The Panasonic adverising show tables going up to 200". so if it can't manage 150". You could get you money back as the product was not fit for purpose. Also I agree with your comment with the 100" screen size bigger in my book is definatley better. I will be building a projector room that will allow me to use a 200" sceen. The only problem the cost of a screen this size. And to think I thought it was the projectors that are overpriced.

Posted Oct 25, 2008 4:25:14 PM

By paulus gallus

hi, ive a big projection room totally dark and i use a barco 808 at 150 inches diagonal, i also have a proxima 2000 lumen i use the barco to play back 2.35 :1 dvds its old but works well, so, i am going to upgrade to this new one, but i cant really work out if i can get a 150 inch diagonal, from this panasonic or if it will be too dim at this width, i use a wall surface at the moment but will buy a large screen at some point, i don't want really hi-brightness, but i love the large screen and sitting well away from it i get a feeling of space you don't get when you shrink down to 100 inch diag, which to me is just two tvs wide! are these projector only designed for small-room home theatres. what will it look like real large?? paul in limey land

Posted Oct 25, 2008 8:51:19 AM

By Dino

I would like to see this projector matched up with the new Da-lite JKP Affinity screen when this screen is reviewed. The word is this screen has been developed by video guru Joe Kane and Da-lite engineers specifically for HD projectors and really shows an increase in detail, uniformity and contrast over other screens due to the new screen material. Looking forward to the screen review!

Posted Oct 24, 2008 12:00:39 PM

By kevinp

Nabi you are quite right about the cost of manufacture being much lower I suspect the price is closer to $1000. Zim $ that is. Also you are right about the way projectors are marketed. I have never seen a projector being used in a store (Even a panasonic store). Neither can I recall seeing a TV add showing a projector being used in a home. Given the choice of watching a movie on a Projector Screen or 42" Plasma/LCD. The Projector wins every time. Whats more the projector should be cheaper to produce & ship than an equivalent resolution TV.

Posted Oct 24, 2008 9:48:36 AM

By Gary

Can anyone offer up a good screen choice to use with this new PT-AE3000? I will be projecting a 120" diagonal image in a room that can be blacked out any time of the day. I do plan on using it for , HD sport broadcasts and gaming also, so I probably will want atleast a little light in the room for those types of activities. I want an electric tensioned screen, but I mainly need input on what material would be best suited for my application and this projector. Looking to keep the price of the screen in the ballpark of a 1000 bucks. Any suggestions?

Posted Oct 23, 2008 10:41:01 PM

By Nabi

Well, I certainly agree with Kevin although I would be surprised indeed if it cost the manufacturers anywhere near $1000. to manufacture one of these projectors. In fact, that's probably where the price should have migrated to by now. Countless insider commercial articles--one appeared recently in The Atlantic-- point out that the cost of manufacturing (generally in the orient) usually represents the smallest fraction of the sales price. As another poster pointed out a few letters ago, these are not 'state of the art' projectors but, supposedly, 'value priced home theatre'; on the other hand, this is certainly a mature technology so why shouldn't the price of base 1080p models have dropped faster? I think we are being subjected to some industry moles here--whoever heard of a potential customer arguing for high prices? It's farcical. The artificially hi price point is partly maintained so as not to jeopardize the bread and butter phenomenon of people 'trading up' their TVs for larger and larger screens every couple of years or so. Most people haven't even heard about projectors--the large electronics stores hide them away. The projector is still being targeted almost exclusively at business people and videophiliacs.

Posted Oct 23, 2008 3:03:01 PM

By Ed Woo

I agree w/Kevinp's point. All I need is 1 HDMI and maybe 1 component input. I always laugh at the fact that PJ manufacturers still include composite and S video inputs in their boxes, while touting an HDMI 1.3 input for hi-def content. Computer mfgrs got with the program when they started eliminating the floppy disk drive from their towers - they're just useless now. If you're going to drop a couple grand for a home theater projector, are you really going skimp out on your cables and use the "yellow" one? Seriously, now.

Posted Oct 23, 2008 2:17:37 PM

By kevinp

Also I would be happy to drop some of the features. All I want to do is watch blu ray movies. So only need 1 HDMI all the other connections can go, I dont't need to adjust the colours as the director inteneded is good enough for me. All I need is one scaler be it in the blu ray player or in a reciever. A single remote would handle the player / reciever / projector. Don't even need a nice case. the room will be to dark to see the projector anyway ! changing the lamp to LED should shave a fair old chunck of the price. clever use of the poloroid filters should enable 3D projection an extra feature for little cost. Dropping all these features should mean Panasonic will be paying me :)

Posted Oct 23, 2008 1:57:08 PM

By kevinp

The point is that there is no reason for the pixels to cost more they are smaller so there are no extra raw materials, The machines that produce them should also have improved so its quite possible that they may be produced faster. Compare the price of computers that process better than HD pictures and digital cameras with many times the number of pixels all vastly cheaper. I doubt if it costs more than $1000 to produce one of these projectors.

Posted Oct 22, 2008 12:11:51 PM

By KDCTS

No point in commenting on the rich feature set of this PJ except to point out these features cost money. Who doesn't want more for less but it's not practical to model the decline in pricing we see on plasma/LCD Tv's and apply that to the projector market. Look down your block and it's a pretty safe bet every house has at least 2 tv's...maybe more. Ask your neighbors how many dedicated theaters they have. Panasonic has done an amzaing job delivering a very high quality innovative unit at this price point. And yes it dose cost more to get you those "extra" pixels. The only way to get to a "cheaper" price point is to actually take away features and use subpar materials just to hit a price point like the Chinese and Tawainese have done to the TV market...it's not in our best interest. Want a better price...wait a year and get a close out don't ask the manufactures to hit a price point.

Posted Oct 22, 2008 11:07:28 AM

By Greg

"...after you zoom the lens forward so that a 16:9 picture fits perfectly into the "height" of your 2.35 screen are there still black bars on the sides of the 2.35 screen? Thanks"

Yes, there is no way any projector can overcome this issue, it's simply a matter of geometry.

The only way to elminate black bars completely, for all movie ratios, is with a 4-way (top and bottom) masking system.

Posted Oct 21, 2008 1:31:23 PM

By onpoint

to remove the black bars the aspect button on the remote goes 16+9 hfit vfit to zoom usally the vfit removes the black bars with out degrading the picture forgot about a lens that cost to much any way you no it would be nice

Posted Oct 19, 2008 7:52:29 AM

By kidzey

anyone know if this is plagued with the same design flaw causing all the dust blobs on the ae2000?

Posted Oct 18, 2008 9:07:52 PM

By Manjunath

with 2499$ MRP, 60000:1 contrast ratio - this unit is going to set a new trend in 1080p projector market, i was planning to buy a AE2000u at 2450$ last month, thought lets wait to see the price of AE3000u for a while, i think the wait was worth every minute.

Posted Oct 17, 2008 6:20:06 PM

By pomFritz

Very intersting review. What about image upscaling quality?

Posted Oct 17, 2008 4:56:58 PM

By Raúl Romero

With this projector in market, I don´t care about if there is other models too expensive. Is not my matter.

RR

Posted Oct 17, 2008 1:36:58 PM

By Nabi

YOUR MOTHER (or wife) IS RIGHT Exactly my point Kevin: prices should have migrated down much more quickly, just as they now have with TV, computers and other facets of the technology. For example, I'm seeing great deals on very large screen HD TVs right now, similarly with computers of all types. Frankly, I just can't see where the great expense lies building these beamers, particularly since the common industry sources (in China) for much of the technology seem pretty darned cheap! In such a mature environment (for the technology), it is odd, even suspicious--do we have some moles here?-- to see the occasional respondent defending hi prices; what sane consumer ever acted this way?! Presently we are perceiving an artificially created price point and so Iacknowledge an opportunity for extravagance rather than value.

Disclosure: at the time the above remarks were posted the author had an interest in lower prices.

Posted Oct 17, 2008 12:23:51 PM

By KevinP

With a street price of $2499 this represents great comparative value for money. But I still believe it is expensive in terms of its cost to manufacture. Just having extra pixels is no reason for a such a high cost. (you wouldn't pay more for a photo just because it had more people in it). Having said that i'am tempted, but will hold out for a LED based 3D Projector.

Posted Oct 17, 2008 11:50:09 AM

By Jason

For those of us who already have anamorphic lenses does the AE3000, like the AE2000, support vertical stretch?

Posted Oct 17, 2008 11:40:27 AM

By Hugo

The PT-AX200 features a "Game" mode that improves signal processing for better response, allowing you to play games with minimal stress. It also reveals gradation in saturated areas to show detail that are otherwise lost in very dark areas.

Does the AE3000 feature anything like this?

Posted Oct 16, 2008 2:51:38 PM

By Jake

Can anyone recommend a 106" 16:9 screen for the pt-ae3000u with a little ambient light? I've read that the Da-lite HCCV goes well with the 2000 model, but looks grainy. Thanks!

Posted Oct 16, 2008 12:33:21 PM

By Erik

Peter:

Sorry, I hadn't understood your setup. I think you are right that it will be impossible to switch between 16:9 and 2.35:1 with your current setup, without using the manual vertical lens shift.

I'm not sure, but perhaps you could aim the projector down instead of using vertical lens shift. You'd have some keystoning (but the projector can compensate for that digitally to some extent), but I guess you would be able to do the 2.35:1 and 16:9 switch with a button press.

Posted Oct 16, 2008 11:33:07 AM

By Peter Jones

One more followup to my previous comments: I found a spec sheet here:

ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/pub/Panasonic/Drivers/PBTS/brochures/PT-AE3000_Specifications.pdf

which seems to confirm the interpretation that the lens memory feature is designed to work only when the lens is vertically positioned between the top and bottom of a 2.35:1 screen. On page 5, there are charts for projector placement ranges for different screen sizes. The dimension H is the vertical offset between the lens and the top (inverted ceiling-mount) or bottom (table/shelf-mount) of the screen. Negative values of H correspond to the lens being higher than the top or lower than the bottom of the screen. The first table, which describes 16:9-only installation, has ranges of H that start with a significantly negative value. The second table, which describes 2.35:1 screen installation with the lens memory feature, has much smaller ranges of H that all start at zero, implying that the lens cannot be higher than the top or lower than the bottom of the screen-- because, I assume, there is no optical lens shift integrated with the lens memory feature.

Posted Oct 16, 2008 10:39:08 AM

By Peter Jones

Erik,

I understand how the digital image shift makes the automated lens memory work if the lens is vertically positioned anywhere between the top and bottom of the 2.35:1 screen. My question was about when the lens is positioned outside that range-- say, higher than the top of the screen, as is typical for ceiling mount configurations like mine (or lower than the bottom of the screen, like for some coffee table configurations). I don't understand how it could work in such cases, without additional manual adjustment of the vertical lens shift on every 16:9<->2.35:1 switch.

I have a 2.35:1 screen and a projector (Sony VPL-VW50) ceiling-mounted with the lens higher than the top of the screen, and I once tried to see if I could switch between 16:9 and 2.35:1 modes by using the projector's motorized zoom adjustment only (not its optical lens shift) along with the digital vertical image shift provided by my video processor (which is much more convenient to adjust than the projector's optical lens shift), but I quickly stumbled into the problem I described previously: with the lens's zoom and shift adjustments set for the 16:9 subarea of the screen, there is a certain offset between the vertical position of the lens and the top of the projected image-- from that point, merely zooming so that the image fills the width of the 2.35:1 screen inevitably increases that offset further, such that there is no projected image in the top band of the screen, so no amount of digital image shift can move the 2.35:1 subimage high enough.

Posted Oct 16, 2008 9:10:29 AM

By Terry

Thanks for the great review. Sounds as if this projector is very impressive. For those of us considering upgrading to 1080p (I own the Samsung SP-H710AE), it would be great if you cold compare with the BENQ W5000. Even though you were impressed with the Panny's contrast and sharpness, can you compare it with BENQ's? I used to be wary of DLP (I was nervous about "rainbows" which I have never seen), until I purchased my projector and now I am very used to the deep, rich colors and satisfying blacks. Has the Panny finally crossed that threshold?

Posted Oct 16, 2008 8:14:10 AM

By gwlaw99

How do the black levels compare to the Epson 1080UB?

Posted Oct 15, 2008 4:46:48 PM

By Erik

iris:

That is an excellent question, and one I would also like to see answered.

If the black bars on a 2.35:1 movie force the iris mostly closed, then I would expect the dynamic contrast to be much worse in such a configuration as compared to using the vertical-stretch mode and an anamorphic lens.

Posted Oct 15, 2008 4:39:28 PM

By Erik

Peter:

You use the digital picture shift to compensate, similar to a V-Shift knob on an old TV. Essentially, you will be throwing out some of the frame at the top or bottom of the screen, but since that is just a "black bar" with a 2.35:1 movie, it doesn't matter. The lens memory includes the digital shift.

If you have a 2.35:1 screen, the setup would go: display a 16:9 image and use manual lens shift to center it vertically on your screen (memorize the settings), shift to a 2.35:1 image and use zoom, focus, manual horizontal lens shift, and DIGITAL vertical shift to fill and center the image on the screen and then memorize the settings. Now you should be to switch between 16:9 and 2.35:1 with a button press.

Posted Oct 15, 2008 1:35:12 PM

By Rickirick

I'd like to see some comment about inorganic vs. organic LCD panels. My understanding is that the Panasonic 720p models have organic while the 1080p are inorganic. I'm especially keen to know if the inorganic panels will prevent the problem with some of the older Panasonic models (like the AE-700U) that experienced image degradation due to either the blue LCD panel or polarizer.

I'd also like to see commentary on how Pansonic's "frame creation" feature compares to the similar feature on LCD TVs, usually advertised as 120 Hz. I've always been annoyed at motion on LCD TVs and projectors, so I think this will become a common feature and the quality of the various 120 Hz implementations will be of interest.

Posted Oct 15, 2008 1:14:28 PM

By onpoint

panasonic is king of projectors that's why it's #1 first of all to fill the screen just press the button on the hfit vfit zoom 16+9 you do not need to zoom in Sony and panny our the only one with this feature the 1080p model is the way to go it is more 3d ,sharper even on a 480source better than 720 version I like the 720 version most people would not notice the deferance I was going to get Sony xbr4 52 but it does not compare to the size or price quality is on par with the Sony 720 or 1080 you will be happy

Posted Oct 15, 2008 12:05:17 PM

By Peter Jones

Please let me know if I am missing something here. If the lens memory feature cannot use the optical lens shift (which I gather from the review is manual, not motorized), then it would seem to me that it cannot provide full automation if the lens is positioned higher than the top of a 2.35:1 screen, because the vertical offset necessary for 16:9 mode will inevitably get bigger when the lens zooms to 2.35:1 mode, pushing the top of the projected image below the top of the screen (at which point the digital image shift cannot compensate). Right? If so, then this seems important to point out in the review, as it would affect many ceiling mount configurations (switching between 16:9 & 2.35:1 modes would be incrementally more convenient, but would still require a manual lens shift adjustment too). Thanks.

Posted Oct 15, 2008 10:43:45 AM

By Damir

We are all looking for projector nirvana and few have the space and funds for a dedicated cinema. Most of us have to accept a dual function cinema/family room. As far as projectors are concerned I think the AE-3000 is pretty close to perfect. It has almost all the features one could wish for. Which brings me to my question. I was wondering if the AE-3000 has enough lumens to be used with a 100 inch Stewart Greyhawk G3 that is 16ft. 6in away in a white walled room that will sometimes be used for ball games in the day time and can be fully dark if I want.

Great review that leaves us wanting more reviews of the next good projector to come.

Posted Oct 15, 2008 12:52:37 AM

By peter mason

No mention is made in the review about the quality of the de-interlacing; in the review of the previous model(Pt-AE 3000, the reviewer was slightly critical of the quality of the 480i de-interlacing. Has this been corrected in the new model?

Also the PT-AE3000 gives 1273 lumens in dynamic mode but the much cheaper PT-AX200 gives 1845 lumens in this mode. I would have expected the more expensive projector to at least match the light output of the cheaper one?

Posted Oct 14, 2008 8:40:00 PM

By Leonard Eckian

Nabi A new Z1 when first released sold for close to 2K and it was offered a value price home theater projector not a stae of the art model. The first 1080P projectors cost around 30K. Now you can get a 1080P projector for less than 2K. I would say the 1080P bubble has already burst.

Posted Oct 14, 2008 6:05:54 PM

By Nabi

Wow! And here I am still, happily, with my old Sanyo PLV Z1, hoping more for an improvement in quality of movies rather than technology. It was state of the art when I bought it for only about $500. or less. In that context, $3000. doesn't seem so cheap; in fact, one would think that 1080p prices should have migrated downward a lot faster. We're supposed to bite for something as esoteric as 'frame creation'? I guess it's like the stock market:videogeeks get caught up in the rush (just like the stock geeks). Ain't it time that bubble burst?!

Posted Oct 14, 2008 5:28:34 PM

By medina sod

What I want to know is how it compares the the JVC RS1...

Posted Oct 14, 2008 5:23:07 PM

By Jeff

"One wonders... how long can some brands continue to ask $10,000 and up for 1080p projectors when you can get stunning, high contrast 1080p picture quality and an unsurpassed boatload of features for street prices close to $3,000? "

Heh :-) I guess for about as long as Monster Cable can charge $150.00 for the identically-performing 4ft HDMI cable that you can get at monoprice for $6.00

There is no shortage of the "Boutique Elite" with too much discretionary cash and too little common sense.

-- Jeff

Posted Oct 14, 2008 4:41:19 PM

By Jack

This projector rocks! The only thing i am still looking for in a projector is X.V.Color upscaling (the 16.7 million colors multiplied by factor 1,8) My current dvd/blue-ray collection will even look better with that feature. I'd prefered "Color creation" instead of the "Frame creation" Too bad we have to wait so long to see the first 10-bit(color) blue-ray titles appear... any news about such thing Evan?

Kudos to Pannasonic and thanks for the good review!

Posted Oct 14, 2008 1:49:16 PM

By mxm

I had have a great luck to test this projector 2 weeks ago in my house for 3 days although I am not even remotely connected with AV branch. I really was curious the review to confront it with my findings and I must fully agree with it. The 100" image was simply spectacular (fed from BD). Everyone else who got chance to see it had the same comments like Evan's guests - it is like reality. Obviously there are even better projectors on the market and new ones will even be more so. However the sheer level of image quality, not to mention exeptional functionality, is so high that personally I think I can live happily with this one for quite long time. In other words in my opinion the front projector has matured enough with this model to be considered long term investment in home enterteinment. Enough to say that my wife, who was rather against spending money on the projecter, after seeing the results is actually asking me every other day, when will we have it and more over even though it is black it is allowed now to be ceiling mounted any place required in our multipurpose living room.

Posted Oct 14, 2008 1:12:28 PM

By DOuG pRATt

I agree with the concerns expressed above about convergence. My next purchase will be based upon having that feature.

(Note: I'm not the DVD Newsletter Doug Pratt)

Posted Oct 14, 2008 12:46:48 PM

By iris

When viewing 2.35:1 material, does the dynamic iris optimize for the interesting viewing area, or does it try to make the black bars look as black as possible to the detriment of everything else? I hope the former, but it may not be a big deal in practice for all I know.

I suppose this question applies to any projector with a dynamic iris.

Posted Oct 14, 2008 12:15:28 PM

By Adman

Looks like I have a Epson Pro Cenima 1080p with a spare bulb for sell. I would like to get this Panasonic for the 2.35 viewing. I cannot afford a anamorphic lens so this seems to be the answer to my delima. Thanks 4792368887

Posted Oct 14, 2008 12:14:39 PM

By Adman

Looks like I have a Epson Pro Cenima 1080p with a spare bulb for sell. I would like to get this Panasonic for the 2.35 viewing. I cannot afford a anamorphic lens so this seems to be the answer to my delima. Thanks

Posted Oct 14, 2008 10:40:13 AM

By Udo

Nice review, nice projector. Would it be wasting money to buy this projector if your only input would be a HD PVR Cable box (Motorola HD6412) and basicaly watch 1080i/720p movies and sports? Would the next generation(if their is one) of the PT-AX200U be better choice?

Posted Oct 14, 2008 10:04:12 AM

By love2scoot

Good review, but it missed one essential detail, which is 5:5 pulldown compatibility. I know the Sanyo PLV-Z3000 is capable of this, but it looks like this feature may be lacking on this projector (correct me if I'm wrong). You would think that since it is capable of 120Hz that it would be an easy addition.

Posted Oct 14, 2008 9:24:33 AM

By Butch

One of the things I have loved about the Sanyo PLV-Z3-4-5 Projectors and which is also on the Sanyo 1080P projectors is the ability to clean the lcd panels with a small air brush device (I have animals in my home and the levels of dust can be quite high). This feature has been a real benefit to me. Does Panasonic have anything similar?

Posted Oct 14, 2008 9:17:13 AM

By LED fan

Panasonic pt-ae3000 looks perfect. I am looking forward to the comparisons to other models in the same price range.

Also, I have not seen any progress on adopting LED as light sources. Is there any attempt by main stream manufacturers, such as Panasonic and Optoma?

Posted Oct 14, 2008 7:40:58 AM

By Derrick Bailey

This new memory lens function that zooms out on a 2.35 screen, is the projector using all of the 1080p resolution as with v stretch/anamorhic lens combo to eliminate the black bars or is the panasonic just zooming out the black bars with a decrease of the pixels used to display the 2.35 aspect ratio?

Posted Oct 14, 2008 7:05:44 AM

By Alex

How much audio time delay will be necessary to compensate for the frame creation video lag on "mode 2"? I'll also be getting the Panasonic DMP-BD55 Blu-ray player and was wondering if the built-in audio delay will be sufficient.

Posted Oct 14, 2008 6:36:30 AM

By hi_def fan

This will be my next projector. The 2.35:1 zoom feature is what has me sold. Coming from a top-notch 720p DLP, I'm a little concerned about two things. First, convergence issues w/LCD. How was PJC's review unit in this regard? Second, dust as LCDs don't have sealed optics as DLPs. I've had dust blobs when I owned the AE700U & this was a nuisance. You can open the unit & blow canned air, but it's a nuisance still. I'm more worried about convergence & having to deal w/an online retailer about returning. But, as this PJ sounds so exciting, I will likely take the plunge anyway w/my fingers crossed.

Posted Oct 14, 2008 12:01:50 AM

By Dennis

Panasonic AE3000 vs Benq w5000 which is better in terms of sharpness and contrast.

Thanks for your reviews of this website.

Posted Oct 13, 2008 9:46:07 PM

By Neil

Wow, thanks for a great review. I was looking forward to it. I was wondering if you could comment on how it might compare to the JVC 750 which will be released soon?( if you saw it at CEDIA this year) Thanks again.

Posted Oct 13, 2008 9:14:17 PM

By DoctorX!

Any comment on dust issues? There seem to have been some complaints on the 2000 for that. Otherwise...this thing seems damn near perfect for my needs.

Posted Oct 13, 2008 7:41:02 PM

By NextGenScared

I've been waiting patiently for this review on the Panasonic pt-ae3000, but,after you zoom the lens forward so that a 16:9 picture fits perfectly into the "height" of your 2.35 screen are there still black bars on the sides of the 2.35 screen? Thanks

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