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HDR: Projector Compatibilty Issues

M. David Stone, November 16, 2016
Contents


HDR Projectors and
Source Device Compatibility




The HDR projectors covered in this overview are:

Epson HDR Models:

Home Cinema 5040UB
Home Cinema 5040UBe
ProCinema 4040
ProCinema 6040UB.

JVC HDR Models:

DLA-RS400
DLA-RS500
DLA-RS600
DLA-RS4500
DLA-X550R
DLA-X750R
DLA-X950R.

Sony HDR Models:

VPL-VW5000ES
VPL-VW675ES
VPL-VW665ES
VPL-VW365ES


Source Device Compatibility

All of the native 4K or 4K enabled projectors above are compatible with 4K standard dynamic range (SDR) signals. It is when you go to 4K HDR that it gets dicey. The following 4K HDR source devices have compatibility with the projectors listed above as follows:

MS XBOX ONE S:

  • Epson models: Epson says testing is in progress with the Xbox One S. Based on published specs Epson believes their projectors will accept 4K SDR signals in either 24p or 60p from the Xbox One S, but not HDR.

  • JVC models: It has not been tested but it should work with all JVC models at both 24p and 60p for both HDR and SDR.

  • Sony models: Tested and does work with the VW5000ES and VW675ES at both 24p and 60p. The VW365ES and VW665ES will work only with SDR.


PANASONIC DMP-UB900:

  • Epson models: Tested and HDR does work at 24p. It will connect at 60p with SDR only.

  • JVC models: It has been tested and HDR does work at 24p. Not yet tested but should work at 60p based on the specs.

  • Sony models: Tested and HDR does work with the Sony VW5000ES and VW675ES at both 24p and 60p. On the Sony VW365ES and VW665ES, HDR does work at 24p but with 60p you get SDR only.


PHILIPS BDP-7501:

  • Epson models: All models are HDR compatible at 24p. With 60p input you get SDR only.

  • JVC models: Not yet tested but based on specs all models should connect with HDR at both 24p and 60p.

  • Sony models: Tested and does work with the Sony VW5000ES and VW675ES at both 24p and 60p. On the Sony VW365ES and VW665ES, HDR does work at 24p but switch to 60p and you get SDR only.


SAMSUNG UBD-K8500:

  • Epson models: All models are HDR compatible at 24p, but with the potential for occasional subtle banding on all but the 540UBe when using a WirelessHD Connection. This may have been resolved with the K8500 firmware upgrade of 10/16, but it has not been tested. All models are SDR only at 60p

  • JVC models: Tested and all models work at 24p, all models should work at 60p base on specs but not yet tested.

  • Sony models: Tested and does work with the Sony VW5000ES and VW675ES at both 24p and 60p. On the Sony VW365ES and VW665ES, HDR does work at both 24p and 60p but it is not recommended because it is BT.709 color space only.


SONY PS4-Pro:

  • Epson models:Compatibility unknown, testing in progress.

  • JVC models: Not yet tested but based on specs all models should connect with HDR at both 24p and 60p.

  • Sony models: Tested and does work with the Sony VW5000ES and VW675ES at both 24p and 60p. It will connect only with SDR on the VW365ES and VW665ES.


SONY UBP-X1000ES:

  • Epson models: Not yet on the market, will test when available next spring.

  • JVC models: Not yet on market but based on specs all models should connect with HDR at both 24p and 60p.

  • Sony models:All models will be compatible at both 24p and 60p.


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Comments (10) Post a Comment
SimonBG Posted Nov 17, 2016 9:10 AM PST
What a mess! I regret purchasing 4k TV and will not update my other 4 zones for at least 3-4 years. Shame on you manufacturers and HDMI consortium. Your greed has no limits.
Wesley Miaw Posted Nov 23, 2016 7:34 PM PST
I can confirm the Xbox One S will feed a 4Kp60 HDR10 signal to the JVC DLA-RS500U / DLA-X750R with full compatibility with the Xbox One S UI, 4K Blu-ray discs, and streaming services like Netflix and Amazon.
hifijohnny Posted Dec 4, 2016 3:05 PM PST
You sure got that right. Consumer electronics has been a hobby of mine since I was a boy. Home Theater is my passion these days. When we purchased our Lansing home, we sought a dedicated space for a moderately sized personal home theater. HDR is not ready for prime time for projectors yet. It's a pain in the *ss trying to keep up with the formats since the inception of HDTV. The industry is sabotaging their own future and retail viability by releasing amazing features every other year. I bought two expensive Sony XBR4 1080P televisions in 2007. 52" for the Lr 40" in the den. These sets were Sony's top of the line in 2007. Beautiful sets with a stylish glass and silver bezel. I fell in love with it the first time I laid eyes on it at Circuit City. Remember them? I gotta say. I was frustrated when less than two years after buying my Sony sets, 3D hits the market. They couldn't introduce both at the same time? Now, retailers want us to ditch our 1080P sets for 4K sets with HDR. . A format that has more than one standard. Remember Blu ray vs. HDD? what a pain in the *ss.I've been researching 4k and 4k really isn't ready for prime time. Especially if you are interested in a 4k Projector. This year I replaced an eight year old Denon AVR that is the driving force of our theater. I replaced it with a Marantz 8802 Pre/Pro and two outboard Amplifiers for 11 channels to bring the Cinema experience into the home. I do have to say that Atmos and DTS-X are a quantum leap in sonics and I didn't expect it to be as dramatic as it is. My Denon was expensive, their most recent high end flagship AVR5308CIA (discontinued) The Marantz Pre/Pro losts it's video output/ Not even a year old and retails for 4000. USD. I picked up a back up all in one receiver. Last years model Marantz 7010 cost reduced by 1100 dollars. What a bargain. We love home theater and so does everyone that gets invited to experience cinema quality in the Home. Every year there are more and more affordable components that are actually pretty darn good performers I half way decent theater can be had for as low as 3000 if you do it yourself. It's not that hard, just a lot of work installing gear. hiding wires in walls. Socket in ceiling for projector. That kind of stuf. But I am a little disillusioned that the consumer electronics industry is running a racket of format changes every couple of years. Audio and video. BTW, 8k TV is on the horizon.
Harry Posted Mar 3, 2017 7:20 AM PST
Anyone knows when can we expect an update on HDR content passed from Xbox one S to Epson 5040UB? Even after the latest firmware update I don't see it working. I now have 4K content but can't really enjoy it to the full extent.
John H Posted Mar 7, 2017 6:49 AM PST
my sony vpl vw675es projector will NOT pass Netflix 4k HDR as viewed thru a Roku Ultra--- maneuvers such as deleting Roku and reloading Roku did not work, running the roku directly to the sony projector did not work, using monoprice premium hi speed hdmi cables did not work, setting the HDMI format to Enhanced did not work, deleting and reinstalling Netflix did not work, watching Amazon prime HDR DID work !!! Working for an hour with a Netflix technical engineer did not work-----the conclusion was that the Sony proj will NOT pass 4K HDR at 60 frames per second----only at 30 frames per second AND a lot of Netflix HDR material is at 60 frames per second
SimonKennedy Posted Jun 7, 2017 12:24 PM PST
FWIW, my Sony UBP-X800 does NOT work with my Sony VPL-VW365ES, and when I called Sony installation support they recommended replacing the X800 with one of the players listed here as they're known to be compatible and Sony knows their own player isn't. Apparently the issue is that the X800 will only output 4:4:4 or 4:2:2, and the VW365ES will only work w/ 4:2:0.
Simon Kennedy Posted Jun 9, 2017 4:05 PM PST
Does anyone know the proper settings for the Panasonic UB900 with the Sony VW365ES? Per my earlier comment, at Sony installation support's recommendation I've bought the Panny, but am having the exact same issues (HDR discs play with colors that are WAY off - sort of like an oil-slick on the screen). Of course, this may not be a setting issue and may in fact be an issue w/ the PJ itself (or some other component...) but I thought I'd at least ask
Sony HDR Posted Jun 17, 2017 10:49 PM PST
Have any Sony vw365es owners figured out which 4K blu ray player actually works with hdr?? I have the oil slick discoloration with philips bpd7501 player, Sony x800 4K player, and Sony x1000es 4K player. HDR failing despite plugging 3 foot cinnamon hdmi cable directly from 4K player into port 2 (HDMI 2.2) in vw365es projector
victor Posted Jul 4, 2017 9:22 PM PST
This is why I am waiting for 4k upgrade till next year see how it is,4k is mess right now so just wait.
Chris Broshar Posted Apr 10, 2019 5:34 PM PST
Can anyone verify if Xbox One X and Epson 6040 HDR work? Netflix?

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