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HDR: Projector Compatibilty Issues

Match Specifications to Determine HDR Compatibility

It is possible to research specs and try to make sure the source device and projector match in order to determine compatibility. Most buyers won't want to do this. The easiest way to deal with this will be to ask a professional authorized reseller for the latest info. They are likely to have the most updated information about specific compatibility for either the devices above, new source players that will be coming onto the market in the future, or compatibility with streaming sources.

If you want to attempt it yourself and the combination of projector and video source you're considering isn't on the previous page, you can still tell whether they should work together for 4K HDR--or 4K SDR--by looking at the specifications for each. First, for HDR to work, they both have to be HDR10 compatible. Beyond that, they need to both support the same chroma subsampling levels at the frame rate and resolution you need.

The resolution in this case is 4K. The two frame rates that matter are 24p, for UHD Blu-ray discs, and 60p, if you're interested in 4K HDR games.

The color depth can be 8-bit, 10-bit, or 12-bit, with 10-bit the only choice that's actually defined by HDR10.

You don't need to know what the subsampling levels mean. Just note that the choices are identified as 4:4:4, 4:2:2, and 4:2:0. You need at least one of those supported by both products at the resolution (4K), frame rate (24p, 60p, or both), and color depth (10- or 12-bit for HDR) that you plan to use.

One thing to watch out for: The ability to support any combination of resolution, frame rate, color depth, and chroma subsampling level is basically a bandwidth issue, with higher levels of each adding more bits of data that requires more powerful chipsets that can handle the additional workload. So you would expect a projector that can handle a high bandwidth combination would also be able to handle any combination that's less demanding. However that's not necessarily true. Make sure that both the projector and potential video source specifically say they support HDR with at least one combination that matches.

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SimonBG Posted Nov 17, 2016 9:10 AM PST
What a mess! I regret purchasing 4k TV and will not update my other 4 zones for at least 3-4 years. Shame on you manufacturers and HDMI consortium. Your greed has no limits.
Wesley Miaw Posted Nov 23, 2016 7:34 PM PST
I can confirm the Xbox One S will feed a 4Kp60 HDR10 signal to the JVC DLA-RS500U / DLA-X750R with full compatibility with the Xbox One S UI, 4K Blu-ray discs, and streaming services like Netflix and Amazon.
hifijohnny Posted Dec 4, 2016 3:05 PM PST
You sure got that right. Consumer electronics has been a hobby of mine since I was a boy. Home Theater is my passion these days. When we purchased our Lansing home, we sought a dedicated space for a moderately sized personal home theater. HDR is not ready for prime time for projectors yet. It's a pain in the *ss trying to keep up with the formats since the inception of HDTV. The industry is sabotaging their own future and retail viability by releasing amazing features every other year. I bought two expensive Sony XBR4 1080P televisions in 2007. 52" for the Lr 40" in the den. These sets were Sony's top of the line in 2007. Beautiful sets with a stylish glass and silver bezel. I fell in love with it the first time I laid eyes on it at Circuit City. Remember them? I gotta say. I was frustrated when less than two years after buying my Sony sets, 3D hits the market. They couldn't introduce both at the same time? Now, retailers want us to ditch our 1080P sets for 4K sets with HDR. . A format that has more than one standard. Remember Blu ray vs. HDD? what a pain in the *ss.I've been researching 4k and 4k really isn't ready for prime time. Especially if you are interested in a 4k Projector. This year I replaced an eight year old Denon AVR that is the driving force of our theater. I replaced it with a Marantz 8802 Pre/Pro and two outboard Amplifiers for 11 channels to bring the Cinema experience into the home. I do have to say that Atmos and DTS-X are a quantum leap in sonics and I didn't expect it to be as dramatic as it is. My Denon was expensive, their most recent high end flagship AVR5308CIA (discontinued) The Marantz Pre/Pro losts it's video output/ Not even a year old and retails for 4000. USD. I picked up a back up all in one receiver. Last years model Marantz 7010 cost reduced by 1100 dollars. What a bargain. We love home theater and so does everyone that gets invited to experience cinema quality in the Home. Every year there are more and more affordable components that are actually pretty darn good performers I half way decent theater can be had for as low as 3000 if you do it yourself. It's not that hard, just a lot of work installing gear. hiding wires in walls. Socket in ceiling for projector. That kind of stuf. But I am a little disillusioned that the consumer electronics industry is running a racket of format changes every couple of years. Audio and video. BTW, 8k TV is on the horizon.
Harry Posted Mar 3, 2017 7:20 AM PST
Anyone knows when can we expect an update on HDR content passed from Xbox one S to Epson 5040UB? Even after the latest firmware update I don't see it working. I now have 4K content but can't really enjoy it to the full extent.
John H Posted Mar 7, 2017 6:49 AM PST
my sony vpl vw675es projector will NOT pass Netflix 4k HDR as viewed thru a Roku Ultra--- maneuvers such as deleting Roku and reloading Roku did not work, running the roku directly to the sony projector did not work, using monoprice premium hi speed hdmi cables did not work, setting the HDMI format to Enhanced did not work, deleting and reinstalling Netflix did not work, watching Amazon prime HDR DID work !!! Working for an hour with a Netflix technical engineer did not work-----the conclusion was that the Sony proj will NOT pass 4K HDR at 60 frames per second----only at 30 frames per second AND a lot of Netflix HDR material is at 60 frames per second
SimonKennedy Posted Jun 7, 2017 12:24 PM PST
FWIW, my Sony UBP-X800 does NOT work with my Sony VPL-VW365ES, and when I called Sony installation support they recommended replacing the X800 with one of the players listed here as they're known to be compatible and Sony knows their own player isn't. Apparently the issue is that the X800 will only output 4:4:4 or 4:2:2, and the VW365ES will only work w/ 4:2:0.
Simon Kennedy Posted Jun 9, 2017 4:05 PM PST
Does anyone know the proper settings for the Panasonic UB900 with the Sony VW365ES? Per my earlier comment, at Sony installation support's recommendation I've bought the Panny, but am having the exact same issues (HDR discs play with colors that are WAY off - sort of like an oil-slick on the screen). Of course, this may not be a setting issue and may in fact be an issue w/ the PJ itself (or some other component...) but I thought I'd at least ask
Sony HDR Posted Jun 17, 2017 10:49 PM PST
Have any Sony vw365es owners figured out which 4K blu ray player actually works with hdr?? I have the oil slick discoloration with philips bpd7501 player, Sony x800 4K player, and Sony x1000es 4K player. HDR failing despite plugging 3 foot cinnamon hdmi cable directly from 4K player into port 2 (HDMI 2.2) in vw365es projector
victor Posted Jul 4, 2017 9:22 PM PST
This is why I am waiting for 4k upgrade till next year see how it is,4k is mess right now so just wait.
Chris Broshar Posted Apr 10, 2019 5:34 PM PST
Can anyone verify if Xbox One X and Epson 6040 HDR work? Netflix?

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