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Thanks for the info, i tried with bino and cyberlink, i have a benq mx511. with both softwares the 3d option on the projector remained grayed out, i tried several different combinations. i also used hdmi 1.4 to transmit with no benefit as well as a VGA with same failure rate. of course my laptop dosnt have a standard RGB yellow cable output so i am not sure what steps i can take next