Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 3010 1080P 3LCD Projector
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The new Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 3010 is the company's first 3D projector to reach the market, and it is causing a lot of excitement in projector circles. Even more interesting is the companion model, the Home Cinema 3010e, which offers a robust wireless capability across a good-sized room.

The Home Cinema 3010 is a bright home theater projector, rated at 2200 lumens and 40,000:1 contrast with an auto-iris. It is ready for 3D projection right out of the box, with a built-in 3D infrared emitter and two pairs of glasses included. The 3010e adds wireless HDMI capability, but does not include glasses, for an additional $200.

The Home Cinema 3010 is also a bit of a departure from Epson's existing home theater line, as it includes neither the 2.1:1 zoom lens nor the extensive H/V lens shift range for which they have become known. But at $1599 ($1799 for the "e" model), the Epson Home Cinema 3010 is one of the least expensive full HD 3D projectors on the market. For those who want an entry-level 1080p 3D projector, the Epson Home Cinema 3010 is an attractive option.

The Viewing Experience

We set the Home Cinema 3010 on a rear shelf in our theater, turned it on, and immediately discovered two things: one, that the Home Cinema 3010 is very bright, even in its Cinema mode, and two, that it does not have lens shift. Instead, the Home Cinema 3010 has a fixed throw angle such that the bottom edge of the image is level with the centerline of the lens. This makes a rear shelf mount all but impossible without keystone correction, unfortunately, unless you mount the projector to the underside of the shelf, upside-down. A ceiling mount will likely require an extension tube, while a table mount might necessitate keystone correction.


The Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 3010

Keystone correction, incidentally, is something the Home Cinema 3010 is quite capable of. In addition to automatic vertical keystone, the 3010e has a quick-adjust horizontal keystone system activated by a slider on top of the case. Using this slider, it is easy to square the image with whatever surface you happen to be projecting on. All of the usual concerns about keystone correction still apply, though: it reduces usable resolution of the projector and causes a loss of detail in the projected image. The ideal mount is one where the projector requires no keystone correction at all.

In our darkened theater, the Home Cinema 3010's Cinema mode was too bright for our 1.0 gain 120" diagonal screen. The 3010 cranks out 1373 lumens in Cinema mode when using the lamp's Normal (full power) setting and the wide end of the zoom lens. Switching to Eco lamp reduces output by 31%, which brings output to 947 lumens on our test sample, while the 1.6:1 zoom lens only loses 5% of total light over the entire range. In the end, using the Cinema preset in Eco mode with the lens at the maximum telephoto setting produced 899 lumens on our test sample, which is still awfully bright for a 120" diagonal screen in a darkened theater environment. For reference, the SMPTE recommended brightness for a 2D image in a darkened room is about 16 foot-Lamberts, and this combination gives you 21 fL. What's more, this is as low as light output will get on the 3010.

On the other hand, if you're planning to watch a lot of 3D, you have to plan for the brightness loss that occurs when viewing 3D movies. A 140" diagonal screen, seen through the 3010's active shutter glasses, gives you a mere 3.6 fL using the 3D Cinema preset. For reference, the SMPTE recommendation for 3D is no fewer than 4.5 fL in a commercial theater, and it is generally acknowledged that brighter would be better. If you are going to watch a lot of 3D, you may want to stick with a 120" diagonal screen, which will give you 21 fL in 2D and 5 fL in 3D. You could also use the 3D Dynamic preset, which boosts 3D brightness enough to give you 7 fL on a 120" screen or 5 fL on a 140" screen. These numbers are meant as a guideline, not a hard rule; using a higher-gain screen will skew the calculations, as will any ambient light in the room or the normal dimming of the projector's lamp as it ages.


The Home Cinema 3010's quick-adjust keystone slider

The ideal 2D viewing environment for the Home Cinema 3010, then, is either a room with some ambient light and a 100" to 120" diagonal screen or a room with no ambient light and a 140" diagonal screen. The former is a great choice for home entertainment, while the latter is better for the cinemaphile who wants to get into 3D without breaking the bank. With the brighter image modes like Living Room and Dynamic, you can use a smaller 80" to 100" screen and stop worrying about ambient light entirely.

The 3010 produces an image that is vibrant and colorful. It seems that the image presets, especially Living Room and Dynamic, place special emphasis on high color saturation, to the point where using these settings in a darker environment can make them look almost cartoonish. In Cinema mode the effect is quite pleasant for games and sports, though a more film-like appearance can be created by turning it down a few notches. Detail in Blu-ray movies is clean and sharp, though the use of keystone correction will have a deleterious effect on detail sharpness.

Key Features

Image quality in 2D. When viewing 2D content, the Home Cinema 3010 produces a bright, clear picture. Dynamic range is sufficient to avoid any crushing in the shadows, while color saturation is rich. Color temperature, even at factory default settings, measures a steady 6000K, and raising the preset temperature by one notch will bring that to 6400K average--and that's without using a meter or making any fine adjustments. Detail is sharp and clear, provided you mount the projector in such a way as to avoid keystone correction. If you must use keystone correction, you're in luck: the 3010's keystone correction is cleaner than that of most other projectors, though there is still some noticeable loss of detail.

3D. The Home Cinema 3010 is Epson's first 3D projector, and they've done a solid job with their first attempt. Notably, the infrared emitter is built-in to the projector itself, so there is nothing to attach, align, or misplace. However, should you require a little extra oomph, the projector features an RJ-45 port on the rear panel that will accept an external emitter. Also noteworthy is that Epson includes two pairs of glasses with the 3010, while other manufacturers typically do not include any glasses.


The Home Cinema 3010's connection panel

WirelessHD on 3010e. The Home Cinema 3010e, for $200 more than the Home Cinema 3010, includes WirelessHD. The WirelessHD system allows you to transmit the full range of HDMI data--that means full 1080p 3D plus sound--across a large room without running any cables. The transmitter does not require line of sight, so those of you with A/V equipment closets are in luck.

The WirelessHD system works by connecting a small gadget to your existing signal source, which could be a Blu-ray player or your A/V receiver. Once you get this plugged in, you power it up and leave it alone. When you start the projector, you can pick "WirelessHD" from the source list, and after a brief period of synchronization you should get an image on screen.

The WirelessHD kit included with the 3010e is rated to work over a distance of 30 feet. We tested the system to a distance of 25 feet, with an interior wall between the transmitter and receiver thrown in for good measure. The system worked flawlessly. The projector is slower to sync over wireless than over HDMI, but we did not notice problems with A/V sync or audio delay using the system. WirelessHD is an exciting feature that we'd like to see appear on more projectors as time goes on. It makes the prospect of a DIY ceiling mount much less daunting, for one thing, since you can simply run power to the projector and transmit all video over HDMI using an A/V receiver and the WirelessHD system.

10W stereo speakers. Further solidifying the 3010's position as an entertainment projector are its dual 10W speakers. Like any small speakers, pushing volume too hard will cause distortion and a tinny character to the sound produced. However, when using the 3010 as a portable entertainment projector, the speakers mean that you won't need to wire up a separate audio system, which makes game day hassle-free--especially if you opt for the 3010e with its WirelessHD system.

Performance

Light output. The Home Cinema 3010 is a big bright beast of a projector. The projector's brightest mode is Dynamic, which measures 2110 lumens out of a specified 2200 on our test sample. Dynamic mode emphasizes brightness over contrast, though color saturation does not suffer the way that it often does in projectors' brightest modes. The next step down is Living Room mode, which at 1574 lumens sacrifices some brightness in return for improved contrast and black levels. Depending on screen size, Living Room mode is perfectly usable in its namesake, though some degree of light control will help to boost contrast further. Natural and Cinema modes are functionally identical in terms of light output, at 1376 and 1373 respectively. Natural mode is not as warm as Cinema mode, and it uses a different gamma curve than Cinema mode does. Otherwise they are quite similar.

As mentioned previously, even Cinema with its 1373 lumens is more than bright enough for a 140" diagonal screen in a darkened theater when watching 2D. If you have a smaller screen and don't want a super bright picture, Eco lamp mode reduces light output by 31%. This brings light output in Cinema to 947 lumens. If that's still too bright, you could invest in a neutral density (ND) filter to cut output. As the lamp begins to dim with usage, you can remove the filter.

Color. Accurate color is important for any home theater projector, but especially so for inexpensive projectors since the typical buyer of these projectors will not necessarily take the time to calibrate them. The Home Cinema 3010, at its default settings, measures an average of 6000K across the spectrum.


Grayscale tracking, pre-calibration. This measures around 6000K

The Home Cinema 3010's default settings put slightly too much emphasis on red, but the overall temperature is consistent across the board. If you do not own a color meter, the easiest way to adjust the projector is to switch from the 6500K color temperature preset to the 7000K preset, which will result in an actual color temperature of about 6450K--very close to the 6500K standard. If you do have a meter, a quick calibration will bring color temperature almost perfectly in line with the 6500K standard.


The Home Cinema 3010's grayscale tracking calibrates to 6500K easily

Contrast. Part and parcel of the Home Cinema 3010's high brightness is a degradation of black level, which is almost unavoidable in bright projectors. However, when compared to the Home Cinema 8350, Epson's other sub-$1500 1080p projector, the degradation is not as severe as one might think. The 8350 has undeniably deeper black levels, true, but the 3010 manages to hold its own, and black is still recognizable as black, not dark gray. The 8350 has a slight edge in dynamic range, as well, but the 3010 has a clear advantage in brightness, which is helpful in rooms with ambient light. Most importantly, the 3010's default gamma measures 2.14 on our test sample, where the ideal is 2.2. This means you don't have to worry about lost detail in shadows due to crushing.

When evaluating these two projectors, it helps to remember that they are built for two very different environments. The 8350 is built for dark theater rooms and excels in these environments, while the 3010 excels in rooms with ambient light. In these environments, absolute black level is less important than lumen output and dynamic range, and the 3010 strikes a good balance between these factors in its intended environment.

Limitations

Image quality in 3D. The Home Cinema 3010 does show some flaws in its 3D performance. Compared to other 3D projectors, the 3010's 3D picture shows more flickering instability, especially in areas of solid color. Motion is less smooth. Brightness is not an issue; with 2200 lumens at its disposal, the 3010 pumps out plenty of light, even in 3D, up to screen sizes of 120" diagonal in optimal conditions. Finally, compared to other recently released 3D projectors, the 3010 shows a lot of crosstalk, to the point where it became obvious even when we were not actively searching it out.

Placement Flexibility. While Epson projectors have steadily improved over the years, one constant has been their long zoom lenses and flexible H/V lens shift. The Home Cinema 3010 has a respectable 1.6:1 zoom lens, but lacks lens shift. Moreover, the fixed throw angle makes it difficult to place the projector on a rear shelf, which many users of Epson projectors prefer due to its simplicity. Those looking to upgrade a previous Epson projector to the new 3010 may need to rethink their mounting arrangements before taking the plunge.

Shootout:
Epson Home Cinema 3010 vs. Optoma HD33

So far, the Home Cinema 3010 and the Optoma HD33 are the only full HD 3D projectors to be released for less than $2,000. While these projectors are both budget-friendly and full HD 3D compliant, there are some important differences that will determine which one is right for you.

Light output. The Home Cinema 3010 is a brighter projector than the HD33, with a maximum output of 2110 lumens on our test sample compared to 1049 lumens on the HD33. In Cinema mode, with the lamp at full power, the Home Cinema 3010 measured 1373 to the HD33's 847. In low power mode, those numbers became 947 and 661, respectively. What this means is that the Home Cinema 3010 is preferable any time you have a very large screen or a lot of ambient light, while dark rooms and smaller screen sizes will benefit more from the HD33's more moderate output. There is no way to lower light output on the Home Cinema 3010 below 900 lumens without using an ND filter, and owners of screens 120" in diagonal or smaller should take this into consideration before making a purchase.

Contrast. We set the Home Cinema 3010 to Cinema mode with the lamp at its low power setting, while the HD33 was set to Cinema with the lamp at full power, putting the two projectors roughly 100 lumens apart--almost identical, as far as the human eye is concerned. The 3010 has deeper black levels than the HD33 in dark scenes thanks to its auto iris. In scenes of average illumination, the HD33 took the lead, with deeper black levels and comparable highlights. In bright scenes, the HD33 maintained its deeper blacks while the 3010 had bright, sparkling highlights.

3D image quality. The Optoma HD33's 3D picture is more stable and more refined than that of the Home Cinema 3010, with significantly less crosstalk and flicker. This makes the HD33 easier to watch over a long period of time. Though the 3010 is the brighter of the two projectors, 3D glasses make it look only a little brighter than the HD33 in 3D despite the sizable difference in 2D brightness. The HD33 has markedly higher contrast in 3D, which gives the picture greater depth.

3D ease of use. The HD33's 3D glasses have a wider fit and are also lighter than those of the 3010, so they feel more comfortable over an extended viewing session. The HD33 has an external radio-frequency emitter, while the 3010's infrared emitter is internal. Radio frequency sync is not subject to the line-of-sight limitation of infrared, though this means you have to turn off power to the projector if you don't want to run down your glasses' batteries during a bathroom break. Finally, the Home Cinema 3010 includes two pairs of glasses in the box, while the HD33's glasses must be purchased separately. At less than $100 per pair, creating an equivalent system ends up costing $1699 to the Home Cinema 3010's $1599. Note, though, that the 3010e does not include glasses, so an equivalent system would cost $1999.

Placement flexibility. The Home Cinema 3010's 1.6:1 lens offers additional wiggle room compared to the restrictive 1.2:1 zoom lens on the HD33. Neither projector has lens shift. On the HD33, there is a slight upward throw angle such that the bottom edge of the image appears 7% of the image's height above the centerline of the lens, while the Home Cinema 3010 puts the bottom edge and the lens centerline exactly level. This means that the HD33 will be easier to ceiling mount in some instances, since it is less likely to require the use of an extension tube. It also opens up the possibility of placing the HD33 on a low table without being forced to tilt the projector and apply keystone correction.

Conclusion

The Home Cinema 3010 is a bit of a departure for Epson, as the company ventures into 3D and experiments with features not previously seen in Epson home theater projectors. The 3010 bridges the gap between classic home theater and living room oriented home entertainment in ambient light. It can function well in either environment, provided that one accommodates the projector's quirks. Some features, like 1373 lumens in Cinema mode and dual 10W speakers, seem tailor-made for home entertainment. Other features, like the projector's auto iris and excellent default color calibration, make the Home Cinema 3010 feel more like a home theater projector. The 3010e adds a wireless HDMI feature that do-it-yourselfers will love.

The Home Cinema 3010 lacks a few typical Epson features, such as H/V lens shift and a 2:1 zoom lens. It also suffers from underwhelming 3D performance compared to its competition. These limitations may frustrate some existing Epson customers who may be planning to replace existing projectors that have longer zoom and lens shift.

Where the Home Cinema 3010 excels is as a very bright 3D video projector, perfect for large screens or rooms in which some ambient light is preferred. If you judge the Home Cinema 3010 on its capabilities in this area, it comes out looking like a solid projector for home entertainment. The wireless 3010e version is particularly appealing for the nominal $200 additional cost, though the absence of 3D glasses raises the cost by another $200 for those interested in 3D projection. For those who do not care about 3D and whose primary concern is to have an outstanding high contrast home theater projector for dark room viewing, the Home Cinema 8350 remains a formidable option and an excellent value in Epson's product line. For conventional home theater in a light controlled space, the 8350 would be our choice over the 3010.

For more detailed specifications and connections, check out our Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 3010 projector page.

The Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 3010 is also sold outside of the United States of America as the Epson EH-TW6000. Some specifications may be slightly different. Check with Epson for complete specifications.

 
Comments (65) Post a Comment
alex Posted Oct 19, 2011 4:47 PM PST
Great review but its a sad day for me as this was the only pj in my budget that had the brightness for 3d in my room. I guess I will have to wait until next year .I cant expect the 5010 to be any better in 3D
MM1 Posted Oct 19, 2011 5:07 PM PST
So it seems the 8350 is still the one to pick for a light controlled theatre room??

I'm currently building and was going to paint my room dark grey along with heavy block out curtains to minimise light... 8350 will probably still be preferable? Hopefully the price of the 8350 will drop as it will make it a more attractive option as I have no interest in 3D..
brandon Posted Oct 19, 2011 11:02 PM PST
what a disappointment.. i sold my 8350 last week looking forward to buying this expecting no cross talk due to the active shutter system, but low and behold! ugh...
jas Posted Oct 20, 2011 4:31 AM PST
Thanks for the review, just a couple of omissions that would be very handy to know. What weight are the supplied glasses, the optoma glasses I've been using for the last 6 months are too heavy at 50g, also is it true panasonic glasses will work with the projector? Lastly, I thought this projector had a frame creation system but there was no mention of it in the review. should I assume, given that you stated 3d is not as smooth as it could be, that the frame creation system doesn't operate in the 3d? Thank you
Leif Posted Oct 20, 2011 10:21 AM PST
I was wondering about the zoom being less (1.6 vs 2.1) than the 8350. The projection calculator isn't up yet, so I checked out the owner's manual. For a 120" (16:9) screen, it shows a projection distance of 11.6 feet to 18.9 feet while the 8350's range is 11.8 to 25.1 feet. Is the 3010's owner's manual correct in stating you can get a 120" image at only 11.6 feet?
Luis Posted Oct 20, 2011 1:53 PM PST
Dear Bill Thanks for the review, as always the info is very useful. Still I am undecided between the Optoma HD33 and the Epson 3010. I saw some pictures of both on another forum and the picture quality and detail in the Optoma seems better, but I am a bit inclined for the Epson for the Split screen function, longer warranty and for the price with the two pair of glasses. I wonder if a future firmware may improve the actual crosstalk in 3D on the Epson.

BTW, Bill I think you did not mentioned how the split screen feature worked on the review. To take care of the cabling I purchased a Vizio Universal WirelessHD kit (for less than $180) and it can be used either with the HD33 or the 3010. So I don't have to pay extra for the 3010e and loosing the pair of glasses.

I will wait a few more testimonials of end users for both projectors before choosing the one, since there is another issue I have to take care of: "ceiling mounting". Additional feedback may help me decide based on flexibility for installation. Which of the two is more friendly with the following setup? A 120 diagonal inches screen (4:3 ratio, 1.3 Gain), natural light is under control thanks to a few curtains and my ceiling is 9 feet tall. Sadly I have one of the ceiling lamps from the room in the exact path between the projector and the wall where the screen is, so in the past with my previous projector I had to use a 10 inch extension to lower the projector according it offset and avoid interference. How will this change with either the HD33 or the 3010.

My best regards to all!! Luis
Bill Livolsi Posted Oct 20, 2011 3:27 PM PST
jas: The Home Cinema 3010 does not have frame interpolation of any kind in 2D or 3D.

Luis: It's impossible to say with any sort of precision, since I don't know the size of the ceiling mount, the height of the fan, or the position of your screen. However, the HD33 has a 7% offset while the Home Cinema 3010 has a 0% offset. If you want to get the image lower on the wall in a 9'-ceilinged room, the HD33 will make that slightly easier. If I were you, I'd be more worried about throw distance; make sure the projector doesn't need to be too close to the ceiling fan.
a_lega Posted Oct 20, 2011 10:55 PM PST
Thank you for the review! I'm new to projectors but I was hoping I would get one of these entry level 3D full HD machines sometime soon. I was wondering if projectors are software upgradeable. If they are, could 3D performance be improved with a future firmware update, to a point of course, that it would make you change its marks?
Cachais Posted Oct 22, 2011 2:45 AM PST
Thanks for your review, but I am still a bit confused as I have a 133" screen but in a light controlled dark room. The review mentions the HD33 better for small screens in dark rooms and the 3010 for larger screens brighter rooms. I'm right in the middle. Any thoughts to help me decide between the two?
Joe Posted Oct 22, 2011 8:07 AM PST
Hello, Thanks for the review Bill, I've been looking forward to this projector for quite some time. I had one question in regards to the mounting. I have a 106 in. screen on my wall and my cables come out of the ceiling at around 13 ft. The ceiling is 8ft tall and the top of the screen is 12 in. from ceiling and about 2 ft from the floor. Will I be able to mount this without a tube? I have this setup in my family room and there are tables and seating behind where the projector mounts so a tube hanging down would definitely block peoples view of the screen. I was hoping to keep the projector relatively flush to the ceiling to avoid being an obstruction to view. Would I be better off going with the 8350 as I would like to avoid keystone correction if I can. Thanks again for all the help, it was a great review!

Joe
Romel Posted Oct 22, 2011 8:28 AM PST
The new Epson 3010 is a big dissappointment.

1. Has a crosstalk problem in 3D. 2. No frame interpolation system to smooth the image. 3. Lacks the contrast of its competitors. 4. No lens shift which makes placement difficult. 5. Too bright for a darkened theater, especially for a 120 inch 1.3 gain screen.

What is it good for?

Its physical appearance is better looking than the previous model. And, its great for big screen (darkened theater) instatllations in 2D or for a lights on social event.

I can't believe Epson released this unit with its subpar 3D performance. This makes me believe the 5010 3D performance will be no better. To me, Epson took a step backwrds with this model.....unless all you care about is a super bright image with first generation 3D performance.
Romel Posted Oct 22, 2011 9:00 AM PST
I can't wait for the Mitsubishi HC7800 3D projector review and how it stacks up with the Panasonic.

Here is what I'm looking for in a new projector:

1. Excellent 3D performance. 2. Excellent frame interpolation system. 3. Excellent Contrast, sharpness and shadow detail. 4. Enough brightness to handle enough ambient light to entertain, while keeping good contrast performance. 5. Excellent performance in a dark theater environment. 6. Quiet performance...can't be loud and distracting. 7. Long bulb life... 8. Physically good looking....don't like ugly projectors :)

Basically, I need versatile projector that performs well in a number of areas. I don't plan to upgrade again for at least 7 years. I still have my NEC HT1100 projector (old technology (1024x768 resolution)). But, it looks better than my 1080p 40 inch and 52 inch Samsung LCD/LED TVs, which is mind blowing... Maybe it appears to look better than my TVs because its calibrated and because the screen size has that WOW factor....or maybe it's the NEC Sweetvision technology!...don't know. The only reason I'm looking to upgrade my projector is because I can't play blueray movies on it. If I want to watch a good movie in the theater room I have to get standard definition movies. They look great, but I prefer to by 1080P movies. My projector is making buy standard definition movies. I'm happy to see newer movies packaged in both standard definition and blueray. I just need to upgrade!
Adam Posted Oct 22, 2011 11:33 AM PST
Could this cross talk issue be similar to the rainbow effect where some people are affected, since some people seem to have no issues with the 3010 cross talk effect.
Tom Collins Posted Oct 23, 2011 3:08 AM PST
I would think at least half the people thinking of a 3d projector would love to know how it does in gaming. For me its about the only concern. Until cable or dish start showing more 3d it becomes to expensive to just buy 3d movies. Please try to include gaming in 3d reviews, especially if possible pc gaming as it is the most capable of supplying a solid frame rate for 3d gaming. Thank you for this review, was totally disappointed to hear Epson's 3d wasn't up to the hd33, but it was helpful in determining to wait till we have a very bight projector with no cross talk.I own an epson now nad love it's broghtness, would buy a new one only for 3d capabilities, hopefully epson improves with firmware the 3d on this model or most likely will excell on their next model.
Wil Posted Oct 24, 2011 1:39 PM PST
Possible I missed it, but how is the projector on noise? Is it quiet or loud?

Any intention to do a review of the 55 series?
Jamie Posted Oct 25, 2011 11:30 AM PST
I just picked one of these up at best buy. I am not a professional reviewer, but I think the picture looks great. 3d is very bright compared to my acer in 3d...2d has nice blacks...almost as good as my old HC3800...and I have noticed no crosstalk...if it is there my eyes just are not seeing it. With that said, I wonder if you got a bad model because I am just not seeing anyone else report this huge crosstalk problem
Andru Posted Oct 25, 2011 11:51 AM PST
Yes, please include gaming in your reviews.

The most important thing is to measure the input lag, with and without frame interpolation (moot point for the 3010 though).

Most people get dizzy if the input lag is too high, as moving the mouse/joystick/whell/other controller should have a nearly instantaneous effect on the game physics.

I currently have a Sanyo PLV-Z4, and am going to replace it soon. The 3010 is a good option, but I'd really like to know how it fares input lag-wise.

Carry on the good reviews :-)
richard Posted Oct 25, 2011 12:07 PM PST
As a 3010 owner, just a couple of additional comments

1) Many comments seem to reference a crosstalk "problem", but in my experience this is being heavily overstated. I've not used the HD33 so cannot compare to that - however, I've taken photos of the tests showing it to match or have a slight edge on my old pro350w (hd66 equivelant), and those things had a **TON** of happy owners. Both are vastly superior to what you'd see in a commercial theater.

2) Having said that, I have been disappointed with lag. 1080p@60 and 720p@60 both tested at about 60ms delay. Hopefully someone will find out that I've got something set wrong, but so far not promising there.

So some good some bad. Overall I like it, and I'm enjoying gaming in spite of the lag, but I don't play many competitive FPS style twitch games.
Keith Posted Oct 27, 2011 1:47 PM PST
I'm a little surprised by your review. I got the EPSON 3010 on Monday and I've not seen any hint of 3D crosstalk in my viewing. I've been watching some 3D IMAX Blu-rays and they look amazing. I'd say the 3D is much better than many commercial cinemas that I've been to. I wonder if you had a bad projector, glasses or had something interfering with your glasses IR?
Libbing Posted Nov 1, 2011 12:21 PM PST
I need a projector under $2000 that will be mounted ~20' from the screen; screen size of ~ 16' wide x 10' tall (~226" diag); #1 priority = video gaming (golf simulator); also for home theatre; never had a projector so suffering from info overload

The walls & ceiling immediately surrounding the screen will be dark but there will usually be some ambient light from behind the projector

Given the distance I assume I need some serious brightness; given the video gaming I assume I need high refresh / input rates and good clarity / no shadowing/rainbows

3D is a nice add-on but don't want to sacrifice 2D quality to get it. 95% will be 2D viewing; ceiling mount issues seems OK for me with a 6" drop down

Does the 3010 sound like the best choice under $2k? also looking at the LG CF181D and BenQ W6000 (though worried about reliability)

Thanks for your input!
KSK Posted Nov 5, 2011 5:10 PM PST
I have max distance of 15 ft to place the projector. Waht will be the exact screen size? I tried HD33 but it is too small and want to try Epson 3010.
George Posted Nov 7, 2011 7:32 AM PST
I have to agree with you. I've just come off a weekend marathon of 3D Blu Ray content and I never saw any crosstalk. However, I'm projecting at only 97" or so diagonally and their review keeps mentioning 100-120", so I'm wondering if it's only at much larger projection that the CT is noticeable. But overall, I have only public theater 3D to compare this to, and it's blow my expectations away! I'm extremely happy with the 3D performance.
Anuj Posted Nov 7, 2011 1:00 PM PST
So I'm considering this for my den. It's a multi-purpose room with dark walls, furniture and blackout curtains.

Will a grey screen work with this projector or do I get a white screen?

Also, are Tab-Tensioned Motorized Projection Screens suitable or must I go fixed frame?
Anuj Posted Nov 8, 2011 11:13 AM PST
KSK said:

I have max distance of 15 ft to place the projector. Waht will be the exact screen size? I tried HD33 but it is too small and want to try Epson 3010.

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According to the manual, at 15 feet you can do anywhere between 100-150 inches diagonal (though 150 inches requires 14.6' throw distance) That's at 16:9 aspect ratio.

For 4:3 aspect ratio you can do between 80" to 120" diagonal
NOLAman Posted Nov 9, 2011 11:55 AM PST
Looks like Epson.com website decided to raise the MSRP of the 3010 to $1999 and the 3010e to $2199. See what a few good reviews will do? I hate when a company raises a price just because they can. I wonder if that would change any opinions in the shootout recommendation of the 3010 vs the HD33.
Wladimir Posted Nov 11, 2011 7:35 AM PST
How many crosstalk , see you on the 3-d picture's ?

Thank's Bill for review =)
Sergio Posted Nov 11, 2011 9:23 AM PST
Is it correct that the Panasonic active shutter glasses work with this 3010 ? I´m buying extra glasses and the Panasonic look more confortable (has 3 sizes).
Nolan Posted Nov 14, 2011 8:09 PM PST
I bought a 3010 from best buy. I asked the rep who was there if there was any other things i should look for or any special features of the 3010 I should know about. He didnt mention the 3010e however. Oh well. Would be nice to have the wireless hd one instead. Isnt that a reps job though? Tell you about the products and line up?
hraynor Posted Nov 16, 2011 8:00 AM PST
I bought the 3010 from BB about 1 1/2 weeks ago, and LOVE it. Just got it officially ceiling mounted on Saturday, and while lens shift would have made it slightly easier, overall had no issue.

Have seen NO 3D cross talk so far, and VERY impressed with black levels, etc (though I'm projecting on gray wall - eventually will sand and repaint using a more appropriate shade though). Screen size I'm using is 147" from 15' away.
David Posted Nov 17, 2011 1:07 PM PST
So, for those of you who have ceiling mounted, how far down must the projector hang in order to avoid using keystone correction. The instructions say the center of the lens should be aligned with the center of the screen. The center of my intended screen is about 42" from the ceiling. Obviously, I can't have a 40" tube. So, I have to use keystone correction? How much degredation in picture quality can you expect? What possible installation scenario could you have that WOULDN'T require correction (ceiling mounted)? Thanks.
Sinouhe Posted Nov 17, 2011 2:26 PM PST
Look at the Distance calculator from epson !

http://epson.ca/images/landing/calculator/index.html
Jason Posted Nov 28, 2011 1:32 PM PST
This is my first projector and I must say the whole family loves it. I've got it set up in the basement with controlled lighting and have run it on a 0.8 gain high-contrast grey 106" Accuscreen fixed screen in Dynamic mode and it looks great with the lights off/almost off; and it still looks decent with all the lights on. The projector is mounted at about 10'7".

I've had a few people over and no one has noticed any crosstalk issues - I've asked.

I still have to tweak the color settings but out of the box it really is decent, the projector is really quiet as well.

I noticed some gaming lag in 3D while playing Gears of War but it was only once or twice. As for 2D gaming, I haven't really noticed any lag in Gears or Call of Duty (as far as FPS go).

All in all, we're really impressed with the projector for the price we paid.

Still trying to figure out which glasses do work with it - on the Epson site it states M-3Di compatible Panasonic, Sony and Samsung glasses will work but they don't mention model numbers. I haven't had much luck with vendors as none of them seem to have heard of the M-3Di initiative. I'm told if the Panasonic glasses have the Full HD 3D logo on them then they work with the 3010.
Traxmore Posted Dec 2, 2011 11:10 AM PST
Is it better to buy the "old" TW5500 for me? I don't care for 3d and guess you need to spend more for a good 3d unit. Now it's not top on both 2 and 3d, i think the tw5500 is a far better at 2d and again i don't need 3d. The price of TW5500 dropped and it's almost the same at 1700 euro. So what's your advice for me?
George Posted Dec 4, 2011 8:53 PM PST
Ok - this review is terrible. Just bought it and it's a major improvement over the my older epson hc6050. This is bright and very good. No ghosting - and do agree lag is not noticeable on GT5 - Nurburgring track - it's crazy and Uncharted 3 - just amazing -

Epson does it again! Best bang for the buck! 1500 dollars well spent.
Jerry Posted Dec 5, 2011 8:02 AM PST
Recently installed the 3010 in my light controlled theatre. It replaced a AE400. It is ceiling mounted and is projecting on a 120" Elite 1.1 from 14'. Worked great right out of the box. Much better and brighter picture that my old projector. However I have two major issued with this unit. The biggest issue in gaming lag. It is BAD BAD BAD. You can forget games like Rockband period... I was unable to play. The second issue was brightness in 3D. Not as bright as I hoped but OK. Other than that this projector is really good and a steal at 1499.00. The gaming lag is enough of an issue that I may have to replace it.
sean Posted Dec 13, 2011 6:18 PM PST
haven't heard anyone talk about external audio like a visio soundbar with av cables. this is what I have hooked to my 50 inch plasma and love it! will the 310 epson 3d hook to it. thanks for any reply
Rod Posted Dec 14, 2011 6:49 PM PST
A month late I know, but just saw this, I flipped out when I saw that in the manual too. I think its a misprint, center of lens should be at top edge of picture, or close. I used the drop pole that came in the sanus mount & it was perfect.
Marc Posted Jan 4, 2012 1:15 AM PST
I had an older optima. Loved it. Bought the epson 3010 because of ratings, reviews, etc. bought it for gaming, hometheater. Great picture but I'm a gamer first and it's seems to have terrible lag. Never had lag with my optoma. Is it because optoma is DLP and epson is LCD. Not sure but its bad enough to where I'm trying the optoma hd33 and returning the epson
Darryl Posted Jan 4, 2012 12:30 PM PST
The Epson 3010 projector ROCKS!!!! This is the 3rd projector that I have owned. The picture is absolutely unbelievable both in 2d and 3d Ceiling mounted. Set -up was really simple. I was pleased that it had 2 HDMI jacks as my reciever is not a 3d reciever and so when I was unable to view the 3d I realized that a second HDMI cable was needed directly from the bluray player to the projector as I did not want to upgrade it.So now all my other components like TV, Gaming etc are still being fed via my reciever and the 3d bluray goes direct.
Will Posted Jan 5, 2012 4:02 PM PST
Center of lens needs to be at TOP of image, not center of image. I used a 5" drop and have no problems.
Tom Collins Posted Jan 6, 2012 4:37 PM PST
Can anyone tell me if any of the new 1080p 3D projectors can handle nvidia's 3d solution. It was specifically mentioned the epson 5010 can not but I haven't noticed any mention about nvidia on any other of the new 3d projector reviews?
Pepeu Posted Jan 8, 2012 4:15 AM PST
gostaria de saber se posso usar os mesmos oculos tanto para assistir tv 3d e o projetor 3010 eles sao compativeis.

I wonder if I can use the same glasses to watch both tv and projector 3d 3010 - are they compatible.
Juan Jose Surco Posted Jan 8, 2012 8:09 PM PST
hola,BILL

saludos desde BOLIVIA, acabo de encontrar esta web, y estoy tatalmente facinado, con la tecnologia de EPSON, como me gustaria tener mas informacion del como adquirir este PROYECTOR 3D con los lentes incluidos... necesito saber el costo real incluyendo envio, ahora bien nose si hay en LaPaz-Bolivia para adquirirlo y que pasa si necesito lentes adicionales. me puedes dar alguna direccion para saber donde hacer mi compra?

google translation to English: Hi, Bill Greetings from BOLIVIA, I just found this website, and I'm fascinated with state structures, with the technology of EPSON, as I would like more information of how to acquire the 3D Projector lenses including ... I need to know the actual cost including shipping, however if there are Nose-LaPaz Bolivia to purchase and if I need extra lenses. I can give some direction to find out where to purchase?

atte. JuanJose
RP1 Posted Jan 11, 2012 6:54 PM PST
@ Tom Collins

Yes the Nvidia 3D solution works on this projector and I use it to play Battlefield 3 in 3D and lets just say its mind blowing
Verner Posted Jan 17, 2012 8:05 AM PST
Do also the NVDIA 3D glasses work?

Thanks
ken Posted Jan 24, 2012 11:05 AM PST
the panasonic glasses work and are alot lighter and more comfortable
Wants to know Posted Jan 27, 2012 11:22 PM PST
Is it possible to use Passive 3D Glasses on this Projector, did some one tried it???? Planning to get one for the basement. Greatly appreciate any input.
Madison Posted Jan 29, 2012 10:40 AM PST
BAD CROSSTALK (Ghosting). Those that say there is no cross talk with this projectot must be BLIND. Buyer BEWARE! This unit has SEVERE cross talk issues. I hope Epson fixes this with a firmware update soon. The 3D picture is unwatchable. However, the 2D picture is excellent.
gllp Posted Feb 4, 2012 12:20 AM PST
I watched 3D on the 3010 and 6010 and both had really bad image flashing. The image was far too unstable for me. I suggest people demo these things before they or makes sure you can return it.
Adam Posted Feb 6, 2012 12:30 AM PST
So if I'm understanding your comments about placement, even if I have the projector mounted upside down on the ceiling, 15 feet from the screen, I'd want to have the projector lined up with the top of the screen?

Or is it OK to have it sitting a foot or two above the top of the screen? I have a 9 foot ceiling, but I'd want to have my screen's top approximately 6' from the floor.
Rick Posted Feb 6, 2012 1:14 PM PST
Looking to get the Epson 3010, is the 3d really great for this projector? Or am I waiting my time?
Sandra Posted Feb 8, 2012 3:45 PM PST
We're considering putting a 3-D Epson, ceiling mounted, projector in our basement. Could anyone tell me how dark the walls should be for a "light controlled" atmosphere in this area?
MR. M Posted Feb 17, 2012 3:56 PM PST
At its minimum, i AM Not a teck or anything such but i think this is what you are needing from what i've read. iMAGINE LIKE DUSK OUTSIDE. gET IT FROM DAWN TO DUSK. gOOD LUCK.
stephanie Posted Feb 19, 2012 7:04 AM PST
Where did you find this for 1500? Can't fins it at that price anywhere!
Lloyd Posted Feb 28, 2012 9:13 AM PST
I just got the 3010 this past weekend and I have to say, I have not found a single fault with it. My previous projector was an Optoma EP721, which was my introduction to projectors in general. Having used that projector for 2 years and moving up to the 3010, I have a real appreciation for just how much better the picture looks. The setup was very simple, although not having a lens shift does hurt, but luckily it doesn't shoot anywhere near as high as my Optoma did, so the angle isn't as drastic.

I've seen quite a few people say that there is crosstalk. So far I have yet to see it. I'm wondering if they mounted it upside down or something and the image needs to have the 3d reversed. There is a manual toggle in the menus that allows you to reverse the image. I have my sitting on a shelf and I decided to reverse it just to see, and at that point there was crosstalk. I've played both, Batman: Arkham City and Uncharted 3, on PS3 and everything looked perfect in 3D. Batman looked especially awesome because of the wide open city and the ability to soar above it.

That brings me to my next point which is gaming lag. Everyone keeps mentioning gaming lag, but again, I can't seem to find it, in 3D or 2D. Performing combos in Batman requires pretty precision timing and I was able to pull off a 14 to more hit combo on a group of thugs with no problem. Playing Uncharted in 3D, again no issues, even with the timing on the reversals in melee combat. Gave the 3010 a run through on 2D with Battlefield 3, and aside from being blown to bits by cheap players and their shotgun/frag round combos, again everything was perfect. No delays between any button presses and on screen action. So again, I'm wondering, if it isn't something with the PS3 itself? Maybe a particular model # or the old fatty vs the new slim model? As soon as I changed my output settings on my PS3, it gave me a dialog that said something along the lines of "the display can receive 3D signals, what size is your screen." At which point I entered 71 inches and everything seemed to work fine.

Maybe to help get to the bottom of the whole crosstalk/gaming lag issue, we should list our specs on our entire setup?

I have a PS3 350GB slim model going out HDMI for video and the audio going out the PS3 cable to a separate receiver.

My screen size is 71" and my throw distance is about 10'(I know, small room).

Also, I have seen people asking about which 3D glasses will work. I found this active thread on another forum that lists all the tested models that work and don't work.[external links excluded]
Lloyd Posted Feb 28, 2012 12:22 PM PST
Since I didn't know external links were forbidden, I'll just go ahead and list the glasses that have so far been proven to work and those that don't work.

Glasses that work: Blick (verify that 3D3 is the Panny model #- NOT the ones with '2') NOTE: Blick glasses are one size and do not come in S/M/L Panasonic TY-EW3D3SU/TY-EW3D3MU/TY-EW3D3LU IE All 3rd gen Active Panasonic Glasses Sony Playstation 3D Glasses Expand YOUniversal X104

Mixed results: *** These glasses have been reported as working and NOT working *** Panasonic TY-EW3D2MMK2 Panasonic 3D2 series w/ Avatar movie bundle

Glasses that don't work: JVC 3D Mitsubishi Nvidia 3D Vision Panasonic TY-EW3D2S/TY-EW3D2M/TY-EW3D2L Samsung 1st gen IR Samsung 2100 Samsung SSG-3100GB Samsung SSG-P3100M Megamind 3D Starter Kit - (Compatible with 2011 3D TVs - contains SSG-3100GB glasses) Sony TDG-BR50/B 3D Active Glasses Sony Active 3D Glasses TDG-BR250/B Xpand 103

Thats all I could find listed for now.
John Posted Apr 9, 2012 11:59 AM PST
I bought passive 3d glasses for this projector to save more money but it doesnt work,
David Posted Apr 29, 2012 3:05 PM PST
I'm not that concerned about 3D but thought it was a cool feature. The biggest selling point for me was the split screen feature, however it doesn't work with two HDMI sources! How stupid is that? All of the new laptops (like mine) now do not even had an RGB connector. I could use a USB video card but that defeats the purpose a buying a laptop with HDMI. I think I'm going to return it and pick up a 2D projector with comparable specs. I'm sure I can find one for 300-500 less.
Chris Posted May 14, 2012 1:47 PM PST
My old Epson projector just died so I was looking to replace it with this one. I just noticed, however, it does not have the 12v screen trigger output that my old one had connected to my screen. Is this true? and what are the options to trigger my screen otherwise? Anyone know?
Tony Posted May 30, 2012 9:24 AM PST
Chris, are you interested in selling your old projector? What is the model? I am interested in buying an old epson projector for parts. tcornelius64@hotmail.com
Whiterabbit Posted Jun 5, 2012 11:02 AM PST
I have a new one. I'm rather satisfied with my new 3010. So there's a problem with 3D mode side by side, it lost signal 1 second in about 1 minute showing. I tried to change other function in menu but I can't fix it. In 2D or 3D up and bottom, the projector still working very good.

Please help me solve that problem.

Thanks for read this.
Iguanax1 Posted Jul 23, 2012 9:25 AM PST
Whiterabbit, try to change your cable to another with higer quality and designed for 3d, and shorter (3 ft.) It may help you.
Gary Ray Posted Aug 23, 2012 2:39 PM PST
I was almost ready to but, but after reading all the reviews, I am confused, I have Direct-TV, as my service, they have 3-D channels, that are great on a regular 55 in. LG-TV how well do the look on this projector?
Gary M. Ray Posted Sep 24, 2012 9:59 AM PST
Well, I purchased a Epson 3010, and after a little over a month, I can Honstly say I am really PLEASED, with all aspects of this projector- I am very, very happy with the 108o-I/P, very clear and honstly a great picture and the 3D is GREAT, really suprised at how good it really is. I got used to the 2D/3D conversion on my LG 55" TV, and I wish I had found the 1030E, before I purchased- I thought the 1030 all had it-I was wrong, wonder If I could get a update or something to allow 2D to 3D conversion?
Ruben Posted Dec 27, 2012 9:13 PM PST
Hello i have trouble setting up my ps3 with epson 301o in 3d mode. Can you help me and describe everithing you did to see a good image in 3d with this projector.? Thank you

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